Comparison LA844 Specs

[SmokemanGRP]

I'd like to compare the L3800 FEL (LA524) side by side with the MX4700 FEL (LA844) but I can't find the specs for the LA844. A search for LA844 on the Kubota website says no documents found and the specs shown on the products page only displays the tractor specs and the FEL brochure. The products page for the L3800 displays two pages, one for the tractor specs and one for the FEL specs. Does anyone know where I can find these specs?

Thanks

 

[bigbull338]

go get you a mx5100 hst brochure.an itll have the la844 specs in it.but i think i can give you rough specs off top of my head.the loader weighs 1000 to 1100lbs.an itll lift 2500 or 2700lbs.

 

[Grandad4]

I think the LA844 is pretty much the same loader as the LA854 on the Grand L Kubotas. The LA854 specs on the Kubota website should be close, if not exactly the same. Maybe one of the Kub techs or dealers posting here can verify or correct me if necessary.

The "8" series loaders are much stronger... they have almost double the capacity of the the "5"'s.

Also, I think the 1000-1100 lb weight mentioned by bigbull does not include the bucket... add another 400 lbs or so for that.

 

[Degolyerent]

I have a MX4700 with 844 loader what specs do you need to know?

 

[JJZ 109]

Lift capacity 2443 lbs. at pivot pin.
Lift height 110.7 inches.
You'll have to specify if you're looking for any other particular specs.

 

[SmokemanGRP]

I have a MX4700 with 844 loader what specs do you need to know?

As a newbie I don't (yet) understand all of the specs listed on the LA524 sheet but the ones I think are important are:
maximum lift height @ pin (110.7)
maximum roll back angle
digging depth
lift capacity (LA524 has pin/max height, 500mm forward/max height, pin/1500mm height, 500mm forward/1500mm height)

I don't know if breakout force or roll back force are important and the time required to raise, lower, dump and roll back are not important to me.

Thanks

 

[bigbull338]

the break away force is the amount of weight it takes to break the bucket or forks away from the loader arms.

 

[Grandad4]

As a newbie I don't (yet) understand all of the specs listed on the LA524 sheet but the ones I think are important are:
maximum lift height @ pin (110.7)
maximum roll back angle
digging depth
lift capacity (LA524 has pin/max height, 500mm forward/max height, pin/1500mm height, 500mm forward/1500mm height)

I don't know if breakout force or roll back force are important and the time required to raise, lower, dump and roll back are not important to me.

Thanks

Smokeman, I don't know if this would be helpful, but here are some of my thoughts... use or ignore as you see fit.

Lifting power (how much will the darn thing pick up) is probably the most important benchmark, but even that doesn't always give the full picture. Some of the early hydraulic loaders on Ford tractors of the 1950's and '60's, for example, could lift great amounts, but the front axles of the tractors they were mounted on weren't quite so strong. So having a well-integrated package means a lot.

You need to know how high it will lift so you can determine its suitability for loading a dump truck, for example.

Breakout force tells you how strong is the "curl" function. That's important for digging, because when you drive the bucket into a pile of dirt, or under a stump, or into the ground, you need to break it loose with the curl before you can lift it.

The cycling times tell you how quick or jerky the movements will be. Larger equipment tends to be a bit slower, since it takes more fluid to fill the larger cylinders, but that's also a function of how much hydraulic pumping capacity you have.

The digging depth tells you something about digging into level ground.

But, when you've studied the specs until you're cross-eyed, you still need to actually try out the different units to get a sense of what works best for you. A person would be silly to get a tractor they don't like very much just because it had a loader that had 5% better specs.

My question to you is why are you benchmarking two such very different loaders (LA844 vs LA524) in the first place? Both the FEL's and the tractors they go on are very different. If it's just because of similarity in price, I think you need to define your functional needs more precisely. But that's just free advice. Whatever you do, I also wish you all the best success.

 

[SmokemanGRP]

My question to you is why are you benchmarking two such very different loaders (LA844 vs LA524) in the first place? Both the FEL's and the tractors they go on are very different. If it's just because of similarity in price, I think you need to define your functional needs more precisely. But that's just free advice. Whatever you do, I also wish you all the best success.

Thanks for taking the time to explain the different FEL specs. That saved me a ton of time reading thru numerous posts trying to figure it out on my own. I appreciate it.

To answer your question above, the last time I was serious about purchasing a tractor, almost 3 years ago, while visiting my home town I met with a dealer (who I trust would give me good advise) and he recommended a B7800 as the smallest for my needs or the L series; "no bigger than an L4400". I spent an hour driving a B7800 and an L3400 around his lot and liked both of them. On the drive home I stopped at another dealer and sat (did not drive) on a M (don't remember the exact model) and liked the larger frame. Then the econony took the dump and I eventually bought a (very) used JD 2630 (58HP) which leaks fluid like a sieve, performs properly only when it feels like it and has a misaligned (bent) FEL. The 2630 is too big for my needs.

Now I've decided to treat myself to a brand new rig so I'm catching up on what's new over the past 3 years. A week ago I started a thread titled "Seeking Advice On Which Model To Buy". The consensus of those who replied ranges from the L3800 thru MX5100. You commented in that thread "if it were me, I'd favor the larger size machines, either the L4400 or the MX".

That brings me to today; if I decide on the smaller end I'll get an L3800HST, on the larger end I'll get an MX4700HST (which pushes the high end of my budget); both new product lines. In-between is the time proven L4400 but I'm leaning toward the new product lines.

I still need to get by a dealer but everyday when the sun comes up my priority is building our house so I'm doing my research online in the early mornings. When I finally do go to a dealer I want to be as prepared and educated as I can be to make the trip as productive as possible.

If I understand it correctly, with the elimination of the L4400 next fall there won't be anything between the L3800 and MX4700.

Thanks for listening,
Greg

 

[bigbull338]

i think you need to step up to the MX4700.