L39 Options/Prices

tnuke · Feb 16, 2005

Forgive me if this is uncouth. I am curious what price you guys, who have already signed the dotted line, are paying for the L39? Or the prices quoted to you in your part of the country. Also what options are you getting with yours.

I talked to one of the dealers in my area (SC) today to see if I would qualify for the loan and found that I did no problem.

The price he quoted me for the L39 with quick release FEL, and forks was 33,300 which includes tax and insurance.

He also quoted me a price with a aftermarket (cant remember the manu) 4n1 bucket but all I remember is the monthly payment on the 60 month loan was 30.00 more a month.

I will call him back tomorrow and write down all the specs.

It would also be nice to see what exactly ALL the available options for purchase are on this machine. My dealer couldn't just give me a list over the phone. I know rear aux. hydraulics but what else? The Kubota website still doesn't acknowledge the existance of the L39

Anyway anyone else want to share? If it is bad forum etiquette to ask specific prices let me know and I will delete this post. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Thanks
Tim

littlediesel · Feb 16, 2005

Tim
I was quoted $34,500 for an L39 with front hydraulics, heavy duty front bucket, and 24" backhoe bucket. I would think you have a good price.The only problem you may encounter is finding one. I hear they maybe in short supply for awhile. I am also hearing that orders that were scheduled for a February delivery are getting pushed out a few months. This info came from my dealer.

Jon

JimMorrissey · Feb 16, 2005

Tim,

Asking price questions is not a problem. I'm glad you asked so I can see what others have been quoted.

I checked with two local dealers and got about the same price. I was quoted $36,500. That is with a 24" bucket, front hydraulics, toolbox, rubber street pads, HD loader bucket with scraper blade and a full set of works lights (2 / front and 2 / back). Oh, and that includes the quick-attach hoe bucket coupling and a block heater for Vermont winters.....The 24" hoe bucket adds a bit. The quick-attach hoe bucket coupling will be nice to quickly drop and snag another bucket when you need to. I'm not sure exactly how "quick" it is at this point, but I'm hoping I won't have to get out of the seat and pin it on somehow. I will report back when I know more.

I'm OK with the price. My dealer provides great service and they've got to make some money (within reason). My feeling is, if you beat them all to death on the price they won't be in business in a few years. -If I have any little problems, I just make a call to my salesman and they have a guy in a truck out to my house in less than 24 hours. That's worth paying a little more for IMHO. And they don't tell you things they can't do.

Mine will be built and ready to be shipped in four days /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif It will be a few more days sitting on the truck waiting for a full load to head north. Then it will spend one full day at the dealer getting checked out. I figure first week in March is realistic.

SkyPup · Feb 17, 2005

I'm paying 35K plus tax for the basically the same thing, should have it next week if things go as promised.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

LarryRB · Feb 17, 2005

"The quick-attach hoe bucket coupling will be nice to quickly drop and snag another bucket when you need to. I'm not sure exactly how "quick" it is at this point, but I'm hoping I won't have to get out of the seat and pin it on somehow. I will report back when I know more. "

I have the quick attach hoe system and it takes about one minute to change from 12 to 24" bucket.. Only thing I did, was to add three 2 1/8" washers to tighten up the removal pin. Before adding the washers, the pin had enough slack to slide back and forth, Twice while digging out stumps, the clevis pin was lost. With the washers stopping the pin from sliding back and forth, I haven't lost another clecis since... Awesome, and yet most simple design I've come across yet...

slowzuki · Feb 17, 2005

Dorr's Equipment in Bangor Maine had an L39 sitting on the lot on Valentines day weekend. It was a nice looking rig, if anyone wants a first hand look in that area.

Ken

JimMorrissey · Feb 17, 2005

Larry,

That's good to hear that it actually is quick attach. Maybe they solved the removal pin problem with the new design....we'll see.

Slow...Did you get exactly the same stuff? If so, then I'm paying a bit more than you in VT. I know shipping these rigs north is reflected in the dealer cost / customer cost.

tnuke · Feb 17, 2005

Thanks for all the info. I did not have a chance to call my dealer today and get a list of the specifics on the tractor that he wants to sell me. I spent the day pouring concrete and trying to stay a step ahead of it.

I still have some questions about the various options that can be purchased with the L39. I will list the ones that I know about and the questions I have and hopefully some of you guys can fill in the gaps I missed.

1. FEL skid steer style quick attach bucket (Jim and littlediesel you mentined a heavy duty front bucket is that a dif bucket from the oem one?)

2. Rear Auxillary Hydraulics cluster mouned on the ROPS frame. (Aprox price ?)

3. Over head lights front and rear (aprox price?)

4. Block heater for those cold vermont winters.

5. Toolbox (new one to me...any pics? How big? Mounted where? Price?

6. Rubber Street Pads (no idea what these are)

7. Dif sizes of BH buckets. 12" - 16" - 18" - 24" - 36" - 36" grave digger (?) (Which comes standard)

8. Quick attach BH mechanism. aprox change time 1 minute (how hard is it to change the bucket without the quick change system? How long does it take?)

9. Front Aux. Hydraulics.

10. A whole host of attachments

Ok am I missing anything?

Thanks again for the replies.

Tim

littlediesel · Feb 17, 2005

Tim,
The L35 had two front bucket options, the standard duty and the heavy duty bucket. I had heard alot of complaints about the standard duty buckets not holding-up very well. Also, the standard duty bucket did not have the bolt-on cutting edge. I have the heavy duty bucket with the bolt-on cutting edge on my L35.

I am not sure if both of these are available on the L39. In my opinion, the standard duty bucket should not even be an option. Kubota should standardize on the heavy duty bucket. Just talk to your dealer to see what is available.

Jon /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

GaryE · Feb 17, 2005

The only thing I can help out with is #4, the block heater.

I just bought one for my L3710, which has not yet arrived. It cost me about $50. But after talking to two other L3710 owners up here, I wasted my money. They tell me they have never had any problems starting their tractors regardless of the temperature. I think I will still install mine anyway!

Gary

JimMorrissey · Feb 17, 2005

Gary,

It's not a matter of whether it will start or not . It's a matter of the viscosity of the engine oil and hydro fluid (HST) when you turn the key at -10 and the incremental start-up damage to the engine that occurs with oil that is "thick as molasses"....unless you run some kind of synthetic. It's just a lot easier on the machine in the long haul, IMHO. But that's a whole 'nother discussion area all its own.

JimMorrissey · Feb 17, 2005

Tim,

-The HD bucket is made (from prior pictures) by Woods. It looks rugged and is likely an option. It prob not much more $, but more none the less. The cost was built into my price.

-Figure $1200 for rear hydraulics. That's what I paid for my L3830 and it's a similar setup. Actually, I remember the dealer saying something around "a grand" for controlling two cylinders, not three.

-Lights....Extra. Not sure on the price. ($200-$300 guess)

-Block heater. Not necessary in your neck of the woods.

-Toolbox. Extra. Unknown cost and size. I wanted one, so I ordered it. It's probably too small for what it cost.

-Rubber street pads. Extra. ($200 or so). These attach to the bottom of the stablilizer feet for working on pavement or other stone-like surfaces that you don't want to destroy when digging with the hoe. They're just super hard rubber pads.

-18" bucket is standard. 24" was about $300 more (buckets are not cheap). 24" has substantially more volume, but substantially less cutting ability, due to the increased surface area of the bucket itself. 12" and 24" are a good combo. I'm getting both. 12" for rocks and roots / stumps.

-Quick-attach (hoe)....Unknown until we get our hands on one. Figure a couple of minutes (hopefully less), based on previous posts and likely similar mechanics. -I'd like to be able to snag a bucket without leaving the machine, that the hope anyway. We'll see.

-Front hydraulics. A must IMO. You'll have over 11gpm to run bobcat style attachments (lower flow attachments). I may be wrong, but 11 GPM is a lot more than most any CUT I know of. However, 11gpm is not considered "high flow" and you need to check the flow requirements before you rent or buy anything for it. Most smaller Bobcat attachments will work well on 11 GPM from what I've found.

There are a couple of more things you can order, but not many. For $5,800 you can get the sweet Kubota hydraulic hammer for the front end and do some serious destruction /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Hope that helps somewhat. Unfortunately, a lot of info is unknown right now. I like the mystery, but I want the tractor!

LarryRB · Feb 18, 2005

" Figure a couple of minutes (hopefully less), based on previous posts and likely similar mechanics. -I'd like to be able to snag a bucket without leaving the machine, that the hope anyway. We'll see. "
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I had said it takes less than a minute to change a 12/24 and visa versa. However,. you will leave the machine. It is a mechanical QA and not hydraulic... I suppose you could snap a bucket, roll up tight and under the dipper and still, you"ll have to leave the seat and at least climb off the hoe.. The mechanical QA is of simplest design and use.,.. Still not hydraulic. where one stays in the seat.

JimMorrissey · Feb 18, 2005

Larry,

Yes you did say one minute. I was just airing on the side of caution /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't know what type of coupling it will be (new design or existing) so that's why I was hoping they figured out a way to do it with the hoe controls. But, yes it's not a hydraulic connection like a bigger excavator or CAT TLB.

LarryRB · Feb 18, 2005

If you have reason to head towards Hartford CT or thereabouts =, please stop by and check it out.. I'm right on the MA/CT state lines and your more than welcome to stop by, play, I mean work, with the disconnect

GaryE · Feb 18, 2005

Jim,

I agree with you in theory and I do plan on using my block heater but that said, I really doubt there is really going to be all that much thermal transfer between the coolant and the HST fluid @ -10F. In fact I have found in most engines, there is not all that much transfer between the coolant and the motor oil. That is why they make dip stick heaters, but those bring along a whole 'nother set of problems!

With block heaters most of the heat is dissipated out the radiator. There is a lot of heat retention around the cylinder walls, but that is only because of the amount of coolant in contact with them.

I for one don't plan on starting my tractor @ -10 unless I really need to..... As for plowing snow, that is what Diesel F-250 (with block heaters) are for!!!!!

But you are right, this is "'nother discussion area all its own", and it would be interesting to explore.

Gary

coopers · Feb 24, 2005

So can you change from JD to Cat controls? That would be sweet, I can't do JD controls. Either case or cat. It looks like a nice machine, curious to see if the rental company I work for will purchase them. They for some reason skipped out on the L35's. Not sure why.

Blake
WA

JimMorrissey · Feb 24, 2005

Gary,

I had a BX before my 3830 and the block heater made all the difference in the world. It would not start in conditions below 10 without the heater plugged in. The block was warm to the touch after about three hours @ say 0 to 10 degrees. It's possible the larger blocks won't heat as easily, but the heater is also larger. I can't comment on where the heat loss is most extreme, as I've never checked the radiator. There's no pumping action, so I don't see that as being any greater heat dissipater than the block itself. Maybe the warm flow of coolant upward is the cause. Anyway, I will check my 3830 if I plug it in again before it departs to its new owner.