L3130 Purchasing Options

[Evaluator]

I am considering purchasing a L3130 with a loader and backhoe. I received the following quotes and I ask for input as to whether these prices are reasonable:
L3130 - $13900
Kubota 723 Loader - $4630
Kubota BC 4690 Hoe - $7300

I also have quotes on the following for aftermarket loaders and backhoe's:

Bush Hog
2045 Loader - $3600
BH650 Hoe - $6600

Woods
1009 Loader - $4150
1012 Loader - $4300
BH90 Hoe - $7895

Based on price, I prefer going with Bush Hog implements. Does anyone have any experience with Woods or Bushog? I have seen some good comments concerning Woods. Are there any warranty issues if I were to pursue aftermarket implements as opposed to Kubota?

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Evaluator

 

[InlineDieselFan]

Off of the top of my head the price for the tractor and loader seem okay, there are considerable price differences in the country. Texans seem to be able to buy Kubotas cheap, well relatively speaking.

When I asked my local dealer about the BH90, he told me $7200 plus tax installed with all of the hoses and controllers.

But as I mention this backhoe, I would look at the Woods Groundbreaker series, they have an optional hydraulic thumb, and a JD dealer told me he would do the entire install with hoses and controllers just a hair over $8,000 including tax at 8.6%. I would look into this before I purchased.

Sorry but I know nothing about the other loaders.

steve

 

[Evaluator]

Steve,

What kind of service are you getting out of your 723 loader? Any problems? Is the bucket pretty strong or does it bend easily?

It appears to me that the 723 is a little better (based on specifications) than the Woods or Bush Hog loaders. However, it does cost $500 to $1000 more.

 

[texbaylea]

Your prices for the tractor and loader seem reasonable. I have not priced backhoes. I strongly recommend the quick attach adapter for the loader, also get the heavy duty bucket. If you plan to use a tooth bar you don't need the bolt on cutting edge. I bought the 66" bucket since I will not be doing a great deal of dirt moving and the smaller size is easier to manuever.

The LA723 is a great loader and I have not had any problems with it. It is definitely the loader to get.

Vernon

 

[InlineDieselFan]

723 loader, has been great, with no problems, but I do not know how it compares to the other two you are looking at. With that being said if you get a BH 90 you NEED to have the 723 loader. If you buy one of the other back hoes I do not know if you NEED the 723 loader. I have heard of no complaints about the 723 loader from anybody.

As texbaylea, mentioned a quick detach bucket is real nice you may not plan on any thing right now but down the road you may come up with new toys to buy. It is cheap to do now.

Do not get the cutting edge on the bucket, just plan on getting a toothbar, a great little attachment.

steve

 

[InlineDieselFan]

Another thought, if you do not have a welder.

Have the dealer weld on a couple of 3/8"s inch chain hooks to the top of the bucket, they come in handy, and should be thrown in for free.

steve

 

[Evaluator]

Guy's,

I appreciate the advice. I need to investigate the tooth bar as I didn't know it was an option. Chain hooks are a great ideal too.

The Woods and Bush Hog brands include quick attach for the prices listed. I understand the Kubota brand is about $500 more.

After comparing, I like the Woods backhoe, probably drop down to the BX-80. The thumb attachment looks like it could be very useful.

Thanks...

 

[Evaluator]

I have additional questions.

Has anyone had the optional remote hydraulic valves added? The book says that up to three can be added. I assume that one will be added with a backhoe attachment. Are there any other uses? Is this something that can be worked into the deal at purchase? If not, any idea on the price to add?

Thanks,

Evaluator

 

[GaryE]

Evaluator,

For me, dollar for dollar, the toothbar was by far the best “bang for the buck” hands down. I went with Markham Welding. IMO they cannot be beat! I installed my own chain hooks… Can you say indispensable?

I own a Kubota BH. It does do what I need and for the most part I am very happy with it, but from what I have seen, Woods seems to a better Backhoe.

Just my opinion,

Gary

 

[hunterridgefarm]

I purchased a Woods 1012 QA FEl last year for my 3130, paid $3600.00 for the loader, $350.00 for a toothbar. Priced the 723 QA at $4300.00 but the Woods speced-out about the same. With what I saved going with Woods I was able to buy a HD set of Forks. The Woods has worked great for me but I'm sure the 723 would have also.

 

[texbaylea]

Evaluator

It is best to add the auxillary valves when purchasing as they are easier and cheaper to install when the dealer is setting up the tractor. The primary reason is that it is very convenient to have the right wheel and fender off for the install.
I had mine done with purchase and 3 valves cost just over $1300 installed. I recommend 3 valves: 1 for a grapple and 1 each for the hydraulic top link and side link. If you use your tractor like most of us, you will eventually end up with all 3.

Vernon

 

[billfires]

Evaluator, I would buy the biggest B/H that will fit the 3130. The reason for this is not so much the digging depth but the reach of the B/H. This will allow greater options for placing your spoils and also allow you to dig farther without moving when digging trenches. Bill C

 

[RayH]

I had the tractor you describe, 3130, 723,BL4960.
The prices for the tractor and loader seem fine but the BH seems a couple hundred high. My opinion is to get the BH90. My dealer talked me out of getting the BH90, he said it was too heavy for the 3130 and with the comparitively small pump that the 3130 has compared to the higher HP tractors in the Grand line, it wouldnt perform as well as PTO operated pump on the BL4690. The 4690 was a good BH and performed well but, in retrospect, I should've gotten the BH90 instead. Much better mounting system, more reach and more power. The 3130 would've carried it just fine.

 

[jdenbigh]

I bought a L3130 a couple of years ago with a Bush Hog M246 loader. I have absolutely no complaints with the Bush Hog loader. Very easy to operate and seems strong both in construction and capability.

The L3130 HST, Bush Hog M246 Loader, King Kutter back blade, Ag tires: $16,500.

 

[Evaluator]

Decisions...Decisions...

I really appreciate all of the great input.

I have looked in detail at all implements. The problem is that I like the Bush Hog 2046 loader and Woods BH-80X backhoe. Subframes won't match is what I am being told. I do understand that the subframe for the Woods backhoe will connect to the Kubota 723 loader.

Any input on the need for a subframe for a 3130 tractor when using a backhoe? One dealer says its a must and another says its a waste of money.

Subframe makes sense to me and I think it would make connection/disconnection of the backhoe easier.

Any ideas?

 

[dancer]

Decisions...Decisions...

I really appreciate all of the great input.

I have looked in detail at all implements. The problem is that I like the Bush Hog 2046 loader and Woods BH-80X backhoe. Subframes won't match is what I am being told. I do understand that the subframe for the Woods backhoe will connect to the Kubota 723 loader.

Any input on the need for a subframe for a 3130 tractor when using a backhoe? One dealer says its a must and another says its a waste of money.

Subframe makes sense to me and I think it would make connection/disconnection of the backhoe easier.

Any ideas?

I have the L3130 gear tractor with the LA723 loader with 6' QA HD bucket and the Woods BH-80X BH. This is my first CUT and first use of either a FEL or a BH, so I can't compare brand quality or usability of these. However, based on the torques that I can see and feel when operating the BH, I'm sure the subframe is the way to go -- I just can't imagine allowing any more degrees of freedom for flex in the system. The Woods BH-80X is "compatible" with the LA723 subframe, but the original LA723 "rails" are replaced by Woods-supplied rails to adapt the Woods subframe components. You get the two Kubota rails to use as raw material for some future modification project in the color Orange.