L2800DT -- 100+ hours report

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familyman

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Perkiomenville, Pa
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Kubota L3800HST
It's time to let you all know how well this tractor has served me.
I was shopping for a machine to excavate 2 walls of my foundation, provide drainage for same, and perform numerous landscaping/improvement chores on my 2 acres. The plan was to buy the machine, complete the work (in whatever amount of time it took), then sell it. I was hoping to recouperate most of my investment and not pay contractors to do what I was very well capable of doing. I knew it would take time, but it seemed to be the most cost-effective approach.
I was looking at a BX23 at my local dealer, who came outside to chat. He said the BX could do it, but for not much more money, the L2800 could do it easier and faster. I was concerned at how quickly the dollars were adding up, but I could see the sense, and hey, I was going to sell it and get back a big piece of my money anyway, right?
Delivery day came, and I rushed home to see a big (what I thought of at the time as big), beautiful orange machine in my driveway.
I gingerly began my education in the ways of the constant-mesh transmission, the backhoe, and the FEL.
The L2800 is built with typical Kubota quality, and just feels right, to me.
At first I found the unsychronized shuttle awkward, and had to constantly remind myself to " stop and shift". It also took a good number of hours to get a good feel for which gears were good for what, in which range. I no longer think about these things. Now, it's all by feel.
It has plenty of power. It doesn't have the weight to dig well in hard ground with the FEL, and loses traction when I push it too far, but good technique helps as does the toothbar (ATI).
The backhoe tore the toplink mount out of the transfer case. This had me really worried at first, but the dealer took the blame, explaining that the shop left off the reinforcement bracket, which is needed and normal for a BH installed on the 3-pt. It was fixed and returned in one week, this time with the needed bracket. A subframe is on order from BrushHog, as I intend to use the backhoe even more in the future, and the subframe will make mouting/dismounting faster, as well as take the load off the 3-pt.
I've heard talk here at TBN that Kubota loaders are generally weak compared to the competition, most notably New Holland. The 463 FEL on my L2800 can lift a heaped bucket of crushed stone, and while it doesn't seem about to catapult the load over my head, it has never failed to lift any of the materials I move as high as needed. The bucket curl however, is quite strong. The backhoe is a good counterweight, and I wouldn't put a 3-pt. mounted weight back there of less than 1,000 lbs (in the absence of the backhoe).
It has no problem pulling my 72" Befco boxblade, and I've moved alot of dirt with it. In fwd at 2000rpm, 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear low all work well, depending on conditions.
I've skidded about a dozen trees, the largest about 20" in diameter, as if there were nothing behind me.
The transmission driven PTO has not given me any problems at all. Numerous posts here had me curious, as people seemed put out by its supposed inconveinience and some kind of awful ratcheting noise. I can only assume they need a lesson in common sense with regard to engine rpm, and the engine/clutch/PTO relationship. Mine works just fine. I run my Woods RM59 mower (which I love) and haven't had a hiccup. 2000 rpm is plenty, and over grown grass goes by just like the rest.
Some people are also having trouble with the 3-pt. hydraulic lift, saying it's "jerky". If you go up incrementally, it is. If you do as I do, and pull the lever nearly all the way back and then lower it to the height you want ( use the numbers near the stick), it's as smooth as butter.
Would I buy it again if I were starting over? No. My uses are heavy on digging and I find myself wanting more FEL and alot more backhoe (10' would be nice!), but those needs are beyond the intended scope of the machine. That means that the L2800 has expanded MY scope. It's a very well made, sturdy, reliable, hardworking tractor which has earned my respect and appreciation. It would probably take me a decade of constant use to come near to wearing it out. If I get a larger machine, I may very well keep this one to use on jobs that require a tractor that is maneuverable around homes, has a really nice motor, is great at ground engagement work and mowing, and is just plain solid. I may not buy another L2800, I'm definitely not sorry I got it.
 
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If your L2800 is a gear driver tractor I don't think it has the over running clutch on the PTO. The ones with the hydrostat transmission are the ones with the over running clutch, and that is what is making the awful ratcheting noise. Have you tried to feather out rock or dirt with your method of raising the three point hitch with a box blade or a pulverizer?
 
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Hmmm, overrunning clutch...I'll have to check that out. I guess that means that a running implement could move my tractor if I'm not careful.
As I said, when I lift something incrementally with the 3-pt. it will "jerk", and I know this because sometimes I do feather the boxblade as I go. I'm not saying it doesn't do it; it just doesn't bother me as much as some people. If I were running something heavier than a boxblade, or something more mechanically complicated (read: "expensive") I too would be tempted to change the valve.
 
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Good to hear a report with the pro's and con's of your use. I have a L3000DT with 275 hours on it and have nothing negitive to say especially after going from a larger tractor to a little smaller one.

I use the same method of 3PH operation as you do with the same results, you just have to learn to use it as it is. I did add the bracket for the top link even though I don't have a backhoe, using a rear blade and pushing backwards puts a lot of strain on the top link. I also have a Farmi winch which pulls on the top link also so just to be on the safe side I put one on.

Randy
 
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Can you give me some details on that winch? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I just spent 4 hours (5pm 'till 9pm) levelling ground for a pad and digging the footings for same (a side job!). The machine runs the same as the day I bought it. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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I could not agree more about this size machine. I have the older model L2500 with a woods loader. 250 hrs or so.. 5' brush hog, 6' blade, post hole digger

Again very good durable machine for its size. Of course I too have found its limits.. but I do love it size I can get it into places a larger machine would not go..
 
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I will agree with you Familyman! My L2800DT has been great. I bought mine in March 2004, and it has been a lot of fun finding out what this machine can/will do. It does take a while to learn which gear is best for the job, but this is my first tractor, and I had a lot of things to learn anyway. Plenty of power for chores on my 11 acres, and it's small enough to get into tight places. I soon discovered the FEL isn't for digging, but it will load everything my BB can scrape up. Perhaps a live PTO would be nice, but I've gotten used to the tranny driven PTO, and it does the job. I'm now plowing a place for a large garden, and the L2800 pulls a 2 bottom plow with ease. After seeing what my machine will do, my neighbor across the road is now talking about buying one!
If I were to buy another tractor today, I might (MIGHT) look at HST, but from other posts, the HST seems to have some issues. I'm not sure moving up to a L3400 or another larger/more expensive model would be enough improvement to warrant the extra cost. So, after a year of use, I'm very happy with my L2800DT.
 
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I was wondering how the tractor would do plowing...which brand of two-bottom did you get? I have some large areas of lawn whose soil I'd like to ammend. I was thinking I'd spread my sand and compost evenly over the yard, then plow, then boxblade, then rake (all that because I don't have a tiller). Think that'll work?
 
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I found a used Dearborn 2 bottom plow locally for $200. With a little wire brush work and a can of Rustoleum primer paint, it looks great. Sounds like you have a good plan with the plow and BB--I'm doing kinda the same thing--getting some pasture ready to be a garden area. I'm plowing and then using some weighted chain link fencing to smooth it out. If the soil is still too rough, then I will borrow a disc, disc it, and then drag it with the chainlink again.
 
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Yeah, chainlink! I have some of that, and its sounds like a great idea. Someday I'll post some pics, I've done alot of work with this machine. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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