L2800-L3400 PTO Making the right choice

[teg]

Wow, almost a year after!?!?!? Thanks for the update!!! Glad to hear a new valve works for you...

 

[ccsial]

I finally got the bill for the replacement of the cam and the 3 point hitch valve. Part numbers for the cam and valve are below. Total bill was $1514.15. Kubota warranty paid $462.94, even though it was long out of warranty. I'm happy.

TC220-99990 Kit Cam
31351-39604 ASSY VALVE

Glad it worked out. I see by the part number you have the new improved PTO cam. Thanks for the update.

 

[maritimefarmer]

After about 5 mintes of use I heard the grinding noise and the tiller stopped. I tried adjusting the PTO cable and it got a little better, in that it could run the tiller when it was only a few inches deep, but when I dropped it deeper into the ground the grinding was back.

The same thing has happened on my L2800 HST after 1,000 hours of which maybe half those hours were running a rototiller or brushcutter. From this thread it seems I should be happy to get so many hours before the cam clutch failed - Nope I'm not.

 

[Oldpath05]

Anything problems with L2800-L3400 peaks my curiosity even if its a 10 year old thread, because I have a (07) L3400 DT, so far what I've learned is that it takes me more then 4 cups of coffee to catch up on the reading, I'm on page 4, more coffee tomorrow, but so far my thinking is the PTO should be the last thing to break on a tractor, so far my PTO is working good.
My problem is hold the clutch down for 8 sec. before put in gear, use to be 30 sec. until Kubota recommended 2 more gal. hyd. oil after much complaining, but this year my problem is it gets locked in gear, have to pop the clutch several times to get the tractor out of gear, my research on forums are saying pressure plate problem.

 

[ccsial]

With the DT you have a different PTO setup than the problematic ones on the HST.

 

[Oldpath05]

With the DT you have a different PTO setup than the problematic ones on the HST.

If I had time for a couple more cups of coffee yesterday I would of got that answer, but thanks your same answer it was alot quicker.
After skim reading through this old thread, I see your the last HST L3400 tractor man standing, you should get a ten gun salute because your still here and you must be satisfied with the new PTO cam fix. The OP and everyone else must of got theirs fixed too, or traded up/over, or long gone to meet their maker.

If anyone else has some dirty laundry with their tractor, this forum makes a good washing machine, the only one that some of us can afford, But the L3400 has got it's last washing, I think it's been replaced with a new and maybe improved model.

 

[teg]

...The OP and everyone else must of got theirs fixed too, or traded up/over, or long gone to meet their maker...

Nope, still waiting for it to break... sold my tiller which was the only thing making it "skip". Works fine with everything else...

 

[ccsial]

My PTO cams have never failed. I have 410 hours on it. Most of that time is with the PTO running. I only use it for mowing and snow blowing and those seem to get along with the PTO. I think roto-tilling is a problem. I run my tiller with the Ford 1910 which seems to have a bullet proof PTO.

So far the only problem I have had is the sight glass and a PTO engagement cable breaking. Those were both easy to replace. It's been a great machine.

 

[Oldpath05]

Nope, still waiting for it to break... sold my tiller which was the only thing making it "skip". Works fine with everything else...

Hopefully the PTO wont break now, I think your warrantee ran out last week, but it's to bad this size tractor wouldn't run your tiller.

 

[teg]

...to bad this size tractor wouldn't run your tiller.

tractor and tiller works, it's tractor, ROCKS and tiller... that's a problem.

 

[Oldpath05]

My PTO cams have never failed. I have 410 hours on it. Most of that time is with the PTO running. I only use it for mowing and snow blowing and those seem to get along with the PTO. I think roto-tilling is a problem. I run my tiller with the Ford 1910 which seems to have a bullet proof PTO.

So far the only problem I have had is the sight glass and a PTO engagement cable breaking. Those were both easy to replace. It's been a great machine.

It must of been someone else's post that I read where the cams got fixed. After going through this thread, my diagnoses of the main PTO cam failure, is the cable that engages the PTO, I don't think it is letting the cams stay fully engaged, as far as that ratcheting sound goes, if the cams are in trans oil, they should ratchet for a thousand years before warring out, I think that where the cam tappers back, it lets the PTO slow down slowly you come to a stop, sort of like a brake, or if a bush-hog/tiller came to a sudden stop. At least your not grinding gears like I am with L3400 DT, the slightest movement and grind.

I also replaced the sight glass and I have 600+ hrs., that makes me the winner. My PTO runs a Fransgard logging winch, most likely no ware's near as hard on the PTO as a bush hog or tiller, once I winch up the logs, the PTO get shut off and away I go.

 

[dsdbkranz]

Hello,
Well I have a Kabota L3400HST bought new in March 2006. I have 112 hours and maybe half of that running the PTO. Most of the use with the PTO was running a rototiller. I have been noticing clicking noises coming from the back of my tractor over the last few months. Yesterday the clicking noise got really bad and I notice the rototiller was not rotating anymore as well as the shaft coming out of the tractor. Reading this great post by all it seems like I'm in for a ton of work or a ton of money to fix this tractor. I know there are a lot of people with a lot of good input on this tread so to make it short what is the best fix and what am I looking at for cost? Appreciate any feedback, Thanks
Dwayne

 

[teg]

I asked my dealer several years ago about a "ball park" cost, it was a grand. I would not be surprised if it's a lot more. Would love it if you could keep us up on what happens with your machine. I would think starting a new thread about your tractor would generate a lot more interest. (i.e., this is an old and LONG thread).

I've sold my rototiller when my PTO started to slip. I don't worry about it but I'm sure one day it will break.

 

[ccsial]

First, make sure the cable has not stretched or broke. This happened to mine around 350 hours.

If you need to have the PTO cam gear replaced make sure they install the new one.

Rototillers are very hard on this type of PTO. The new cams are supposed to be much better for tillers.

 

[teg]

Tonight, I can look up what serial number the switch from the original cam to the "new" cam was. Even thou you bought your tractor in 2006, it might have been old inventory. Do you know your serial number (at least the first 3 digits).

 

[dsdbkranz]

Hello again,
I did call the tractor dealer where I had purchased it and he said it would be around $1800 plus parts to replace the over running clutch. He also told me to check the cable just like ccsaial suggested. The cable was pretty loose so I adjusted the cable per the service manual I had just bought and I had got a lot more travel for engagement of the clutch. I'm in the process of changing oils and filters on the tractor then I'll give it a try to see if it did any good or not. I'll keep you posted. If not I'm going to repair the tractor myself, and get the updated parts as mentioned in an earlier post.
Teg
The serial number on my 2006 Kubota L3400HST is 57089. Thanks again everyone!
Dwayne

 

[ccsial]

Thanks for the update, keep us posted.

 

[teg]

...I'm in the process of changing oils and filters on the tractor then I'll give it a try to see if it did any good or not...

I would not change the oil since the dealer is going to drain the system if they need to fix it... just re-adjust the cable to see if it works.

I'll check the serial number tonight, IIRC, it was above 60K... so you have the original cams (like mine).

I have to go to my dealer this week to pick up oil for an oil change, I'll ask them what it would cost now to change out the Cams. Since I don't have the cultivator anymore... I would like to get this corrected but I can live without it.

PS. Yes, Thanks for the update!

 

[dsdbkranz]

Well adjusting the cable seemed to do the trick, I changed all my oils and filters on the tractor then hooked up the rototiller and it seemed to be fine. I'll take it!!

 

[ccsial]

Thanks for the good news. Try not to hit any big rocks now.