Kubota or John Deere?

[Carl_NH]

Robert,

Many auto parts stores make hoses too in our area. I agree that 8-9 hrs is an anomaly for hoses to break at the fitting - like said before just a fluke.

Kubota makes the primary elements in Japan (engine and frame) and the attachments here - FEL, wheels, tires, backhoes, etc. There are a few reasons for this, shipping, container costs, duty (they can declare a much lower cost not assembled and pay duty on the base unit) as well keep the end product quality high resulting in a happy long term customer.

Carl

 

[Hawkflyer]

Robert -I recently upgraded from a B7100 HSD (no problems, just needed more power), to a B2410 HSD. I NEVER had a hose fail on the old machine, broke a lot of fittings but never a hose failure. In the first 5 hours on the new machine, one hose had a pin hole, a second, blew right at the fitting just as you described, and a third developed a slow leak at the fitting. I have talked with my dealer and he says that he is finding fitting failures to be common on the new machines. He has reported the problem to Kubota (no word back yet). He suspects that they may be crimping the hoses too tight at the factory. My guess would be they are not seating the hoses all the way in the fitting before they crimp them. In any case it is not good.I actually prefer the older hose system that had break away fittings. Usually, all you needed was to carry spare fittings and in five min. you could be back at work. Now if you break a fitting you have to build a new hose. Progress I guess??I have the same problem with the 2:00 pm breakage delima. I have found that the local auto parts store (speed shop, not Trak auto) can make hoses and they use hose stock thats rated at 6000 psi instead of the 3000 that comes with the tractor. They are open till 7:00 pm Saturdays (race day), and the longest hose on the loader only costs $9.00 to duplicate fittings and all from the auto shop. Good luck.

 

[Buster57]

You are right on the money. If you are a tall person JD is the way to go. Very noticable difference.
I'm average height so I went with Kubota. Both tractor lines are so well built it would be difficult to make out substantial differences.
What ever fits best and who ever has the best dealer in town.

 

[john_bud]

<font color=blue>You are right on the money. If you are a tall person JD is the way to go. Very noticable difference. I'm average height so I went with Kubota. </font color=blue>

Odd, I bought an L3410 HST after a long test run of the JD4300 HST. I thought the Kubota was the better fit and I am 6' 2". I guess we all have different ideas of "fit".

Oh well, drive 'em both and go with the best one for you.

John Bud

 

[robertm]

Even more odd... I'm 6'-5" and chose a B7500 over a JD4110 or 4115. I feel I have good room to stretch the legs. Whatever the case, I still don't have a Japanese butt to fit the Japanese seat! Can't wait 'til it wears out (the seat) so I can replace it with one with armrests. Any ideas on a good replacement for a B7500? That's one thing JD has over Kubota... better cush for the bisquits!

 

[cchoate]

I own a 7500 and agree the seat is to basic. I sat on a 2710 and loved that seat but that machince was just to many $ for me. There is a couple of seats I've seen at TSC. The one I want is of course the most expensive ($150). Maybe when it goes on sale I will get it.

 

[crown]

I agree the seat is not very good. There was a post awhile back where someone put a B-2410 seat on the B-7500. I thinking about checking it out. P.S my biscuts are bit large for the seat also/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[Fly_Rodr]

I would check out the seat height of the B-2410 compared to your B-7500. I have been checking out New Hollands for a while, I had sit on the TC18 and TC21D (same frame and seat) both ok but a little hard. I was waiting on the new TC24D (same frame as TC21) to purchase. The tractor came in and the new seat was 3-4 inches higher which made getting on and off the tractor difficult, your leg getting trapped between the steering wheel and seat. /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif

 

[Buster57]

Maybe it was the seat adjustment? Who knows but I thougt the Deere had more leg room.
Regardless, the L3010 is a great tractor and I have no reservations about going with Kubota. I also have a great dealer.
The price was also much more competitive.

 

[abheye]

kubota was much better deal for me. I bought a b7500 after almost signing for a 4110

 

[Hawkflyer]

Have you seen any JD ads lately? If JD builds tractors the way they write code.../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gifMost of the landscaping guys around here are using orange and love them. A lot of them are "L" series, but increasingly we are seeing a lot of larger "B" series as well.

 

[blurrybill]

They are both good. Go with the best dealer and spend time evaluating dealer ethics.

Bill

 

[Golfgar4]

Well stated, Bill (and welcome back!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif)

 

[Anonymous Poster]

My whole tractor buying saga was not too far removed from buying a new car - a lot of it really came down to the dealer.

The local JD showed me a 790 and acted as though he could care less if I wanted to pay the sky-high price he quoted. See ya!

The local Kubota dealer was pretty arrogant in general, like he was doing me a favor. I don't scare too easy but I do get mad. See ya!

The next closest Kubota dealer was courteous, great to work with and understood that I simply wanted a reasonable price on tractor/implements/trailer along with some questions answered. I would have bought a new L3000, but he had one on the lot with 33 hours on it and full warranty. DEAL!

Everything was ready on time - terrific outfit to deal with. Sealy Tractor, Sealy TX

 

[kurth]

I'm trying to decide between limes and oranges, so to speak. I live in Wyoming where there is a layer of dense 3 or 4 inch diameter rocks about 8 inches below the surface over my entire land. A 2-hp gasoline auger stops cold on this layer.

I love the Kubota BX22 because I need a backhoe and FEL. But, I'm concerned that the 17 or so PTO horsepower isn't enough for a post hole digger to get through the rock, or that the backhoe won't cut it. I can get a Deere 4210 which packs 8 or 9 more PTO horsepower and weighs 1000 pounds more for the about the same price without backhoe, but with FEL and post hole digger.

Any thoughts on the *power* of the BX22's backhoe and any auger that would attach to the PTO, and how the lighter weight factors in?

 

[ChrisNJ]

Kurth,
IMO, I rented a BX22 because it was very attractive, dollar wise, with a backhoe, but found it to be very limiting for the ground work I need to do (rocks, stumps, etc..) I ended up spending a lot more (2-3K) for a JD4310 with 430, boxblade, PHD, without backhoe (will get it later). It has done everthing that I have asked of it so far. I am impressed and glad I did the research on the spec's (JD's tended to do a lot better in hydraulic performance than their equal horsepower/sized competition). I have literally had large rocks just inching out of the ground with the box box blade or loader, using full power and full hydrualics with me smiling as it comes out. I'm congratulating myself that JD's loader/3pt has better performance spec's than the others that I looked at, BUT AT A PRICE. Good luck in your search. PS: I am not associated with JD in any way.

 

[dcollie]

I went with Kubota (BX22) but I had already placed an order on a new JD TEN series. For me, it was a combination of needing a the mower and FEL, and wanting a backhoe. Withe the JD the backhoe was out of the question in the entry level TEN series so I had to decide how important that backhoe factor was. And I had to stay in budget.

In the end, the Kubota won out on price (mid $ 16K) whereas I'd have been in the $ 24K range on the JD similarly equipped.
So far, I'm 100% pleased with the BX22, (realizing it's not a tank or a commerical high-duty backhoe). No problems or issues with the Orange whatsoever.

I don't think you can go wrong either way. Get the one that suits your needs and budget best, and a dealer you can work with.

-Duane C.

 

[Nuru]

One word <font color=green> "Deere" </font color=green> .

Very good service, very reliable, very rugged. to be fair Kubota can make the same statements. But i researched both manufacturer's offerings at the riding mower, sub-CUT, and CUT, levels, and I chose a JD 4100.

 

[Turfman]

You have teased us enough. What did you decide on for a tractor?

 

[popeye]

I bet I know who that dealer was. I can't think of the name right now because after talking to a salesman for about 2 minutes I knew I wouldn't be dialing that number again. Especially after he told me they set their prices for what they think they should make off of them and they would not match prices with anybody. See ya bud!!
Wound up buying from a dealer in Nacgodoches. Got the best deal within 200 miles. On an MX5000
Mike