Kubota M8560 and the M9960

[Grateful11]

it costs quite a bit of money. it varies by model, but its around an extra $4500 on a utility tractor, up to 15-20k in the very large machines. There are also many electronic sensors and other stuff to go wrong as a machines ages. For high hour machines there is enough fuel savings to pay off the extra hardware, however for our average 150 hour/year compact and utility customers is simply an added expense.

I'm a bit confused, you said earlier, "Thats not normal. the filter is loaded with lots of toxic heavy metals. The intent is that they never need to be changed." Now it's going to cost $4500 and up to change this filter? Before my wife goes out and buys a Tier IV engine tractor I'd kinda like to know what it's going to cost her down the road. Could you clarify if this is something on say a M7040 that's going to have to changed after so many hours or so many years regardless of them the hours on it. She's looking at buying an M7040 and it supposedly has an interim Tier IV engine but if it's going cost $5K for a particulate filter every 2 years I think she'll be looking for an older Tier III engine model.

 

[foreman Etexas]

I'm a bit confused, you said earlier, "Thats not normal. the filter is loaded with lots of toxic heavy metals. The intent is that they never need to be changed." Now it's going to cost $4500 and up to change this filter? Before my wife goes out and buys a Tier IV engine tractor I'd kinda like to know what it's going to cost her down the road. Could you clarify if this is something on say a M7040 that's going to have to changed after so many hours or so many years regardless of them the hours on it. She's looking at buying an M7040 and it supposedly has an interim Tier IV engine but if it's going cost $5K for a particulate filter every 2 years I think she'll be looking for an older Tier III engine model.

The way I read it was the total cost of the tractor was 4,500 more than the older model cause of the Tier IV motors...

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

part of the problem with this Tier4 stuff is that no one really knows how things are going to pan out and we put hours and years onto tractors. Any Diesel Particulate Filter is "toxic waste" due to the heavy metals inside. I've not heard any vendor yet who has a program in place to deal with disposal and replacement if its needed since the perspective is that is should not be nessesary to do so unless somthing goes wrong. I am sure this will flesh out with time.

Bottom line, but a tractor now while there are still some Tier3's left.

Yes, its $4500 on the cost of the tractor. I have no idea what a replacment DPF will cost.

 

[Lyrch75]

Had to replace one on a 2008 F-350 a couple years back and it was over $2,000.00. I would ASSume that the economies of scale that Ford sees by selling so many more of these than Kubota sells tractors would balance out the smaller size that we would need on a smaller tractor engine.

part of the problem with this Tier4 stuff is that no one really knows how things are going to pan out and we put hours and years onto tractors. Any Diesel Particulate Filter is "toxic waste" due to the heavy metals inside. I've not heard any vendor yet who has a program in place to deal with disposal and replacement if its needed since the perspective is that is should not be nessesary to do so unless somthing goes wrong. I am sure this will flesh out with time.

Bottom line, but a tractor now while there are still some Tier3's left.

Yes, its $4500 on the cost of the tractor. I have no idea what a replacment DPF will cost.

 

[Trican]

I am worried that the DPF filter will be trouble. I know that they have had them in highway trucks for a couple years now and are always trouble!! Also expencive to have removed and cleaned. The one in my kenworth with cummins engine is junk! I hope kubota has a better system than cummins. I think I will buy now before that's all you can get!

 

[curtisfarmer]

My dealer said everything Messick said above. For the construction equipment it is mandatory as well. $7k on a kx121-3. Yikes!

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

prices on DPF exchange are starting to come out, it will vary by the size and all.. but I've been seeing approx $1500 with a core return. I'd expect that to drop as time goes by and companies get better with this.