Kioti's Own Category

Golfgar4 · Feb 12, 2004

Re: Kioti\'s Own Category

Vince,

I agree with everything that you've said. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

To be perfectly honest, many times I've wondered why a moderator hasn't stepped in and mentioned something to the dealers who have been pushing their products on TBN. And I'm not just talking about Kioti dealers. There have been other dealers in other forums on an occassional basis too.

As a customer, I do appreciate hearing what the dealers have to say about the specifics of a particular tractor or implement. I tend to think that we're getting information right from the horses' mouth, so to speak.

But when it feels like a sales pitch, rather than an exchange of information, I get upset at that. I don't mind it when the dealer identifies himself as a dealer. But if I want to get a quote or if I choose to pursue some kind of an arrangement, I'll contact the dealer privately to discuss it. These public discussion forums were not created for doing business! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Bird · Feb 12, 2004

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( many times I've wondered why a moderator hasn't stepped in and mentioned something to the dealers who have been pushing their products on TBN )

Garry, just a few thoughts in regard to your comment:

1) Anytime you see something you don't think should be there, you can click on the "notify moderators" button at the bottom of the post
2) The forum is so popular and has so many posts that the moderators may not have time to read all of them, and I think that's the reason for the "notify moderators" button
3) The Terms of Service prohibits advertising without the permission of Tractorbynet.com
4) It obviously costs money, as well as time and effort, to provide this forum that so many of us like so much
5) Some of the dealers do have the permission of TBN because they are PAYING for that privilege and that keeps it free for the rest of us
6) I, for one, am glad those dealers support TBN, both with their money and with their knowledge.

Golfgar4 · Feb 12, 2004

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Bird,

Please don't misunderstand me. I too am glad for the dealer support to TBN. I recognize how improtant they are to its' success.

I also understand that I can notify a moderator anytime I feel strongly about something. I guess in most of the instances that come to mind, what ever was being said was borderline, and I figured that either I was being a little too picky, or the line hadn't been crossed as far as violating any TBN policies.

I also recognize how busy the moderators must be, and that they can't be in all places at all times. I think if you review my record as it pertains to the moderators, you'll see that I am a huge fan and supporter of what they do for TBN. I certainly do not want to add additional problems that are not warranted.

I guess I would like a bit of a clarification, though. You state ( Some of the dealers do have the permission of TBN because they are PAYING for that privilege ....), meaning that they do have permission to advertise here. I understand and agree with that. But do the advertising privledges apply to the discussion forums themselves? Or are the priveldges only for the banners and pop ups that we see? I really don't know.

As was mentioned in an earlier response, I have no problem with any dealer, whether they advertise on TBN or not, mentioning that they are a dealer and that if an individual wants to contact them privately, they would be happy to work with them. Many of the dealers that do advertise have done this in a very acceptable, professional manner. But there are some others, and I will not mention any names, that in my opinion , cross the line and blatantly advertise their dealership in the middle of a thread.

Again, these are my opinions. And I want all the dealers to know that I appreciate their involvement and insightful responses. Their participation has, without question, provided countless solutions for people looking for help, whether with a particular problem, or with the purchase of a new tractor.

I apologize for getting this thread off track. I guess I can at least offer that we kept tractors as part of it! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bird · Feb 12, 2004

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( But do the advertising privledges apply to the discussion forums themselves? Or are the priveldges only for the banners and pop ups that we see? )

Garry, I'm no expert, probably ought to just let Muhammad answer, but as far as I know their advertising privileges do apply to the discussion forum as well as the banner ads, but I don't think we have any pop ups, do we?

Golfgar4 · Feb 12, 2004

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( but I don't think we have any pop ups, do we? )

Yeah, I guess you're right there. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Well, if the advertisers can advertise in the discussion forums, then I owe them an apology and then I guess I'll just fade away quietly, cause my size 10 1/2 won't let me say anything anyway! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Muhammad · Feb 12, 2004

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We allow advertisers to solicit business in the forums to some degree. Obviously there is a limit, and we have had to tell some to cut back the ads a bit.

We keep the list of current advertisers fairly up to date if you ever need a reference point... http://www.tractorbynet.com/site/advertisers.htm

Golfgar4 · Feb 12, 2004

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Thanks for clarifying. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Then to some degree, I will offer apologies to any dealers that I may have offended. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

LakeLanierBuddy · Feb 12, 2004

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I wonder if Kubota will sue about our new "own" forum! I guess as long as we don't use any shade of orange we are safe! I am all for it, I think it is the average three and then the best KIOTI!
DK55C /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DMB · Feb 12, 2004

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Muhammad,
I've been out of it for a few days. I just checked in and what do I see? Kioti will /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif get it's own category. I think this is a great idea like many other respondents do. The only thing better than this will be when I get to post about my own tractor purchase.
DMB

Spanky100 · Feb 13, 2004

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Muhammad

Thanks for being proactive and including Kioti under its own category soon. I do not mind competition within the posts. The cost information lets me know if I am in paying to much. I will usually support the local dealer unless he is not reasonable in price, attitude, or service. Being cost competitive is what has caused me to start looking at the this brand.