Kioti thread cencorship?

[jim_n_nh]

I have discussed this with the administrator and understand his point of view. I think towards the end my emotions entered into my writings But...

Is it fair to pull all of my threads, some of which had over 5000 hits because some dealers and possibly Kioti were upset. If nothing else I was generating traffic to the site, but unlike the dealers... I wasn't paying for advertising.

The idea of posting was given to me by the mechanic at Upper Valley Tractor when they came to pick up the Kioti. He stated to me that it was a great forum. I guess he might regret this decision currently.

I think just finding the service bulletin (legally) and posting it justified having it. I have had contact over the last week with multiple Kioti dealers that will never get a sale from me but are trying to get me in contact with Kioti. Without the posting that would not be possible.

Let's put it to a vote, in the future I will try to stay more on focus, and you get to read it in uncensored media. What do you think??

Thank You,

Jim

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

In my opinion, what gets people upset is that there is no clear policy of whats permissible and whats not. I had noticed your post about the financial state of Kioti/Daedong which is a very good discussion to be having right now given the state of the economy, but apparently that's not allowed... however, a 150 page thread about the failure of FarmTrac is totally okay and has been going on for 8-9 months. This comes off looking like censorship and pandering to potential advertisers in what should be a public forum.

TBN should have a set of rules in place that should be enforced by the moderators. Those rules should be gospel, regardless of who is making the request for an exception.

 

[SESS]

On the home page of TBN it states: Welcome to TractorByNet.com---The World's Largest Compact Tractor Community!

Customers, consumers, dealers, manufactures, etc all read this site and obviously it is very well excepted and appreciated. I for one find the threads very interesting reading and very informative. The internet is a wicked tool! Both for the good and the bad! Readers have faith in TBN because there is a wealth of opinions, first hand experience and knowledge that we can all learn from.

I personally believe that people should be able to state their views-if someone has had an experience or been involved in an eqiupment "flaw", they should be able to post their comments, concerns and views for everyone to be made aware of. I think the manufactures of the different brands that are mentioned on this site, should also heed the words of the viewers because if a viewer is pointing out a problem that is better for the manufacturer in the long run. Same goes for a dealer that has had a negative experience with a customer. People are human, everyone has an opinion, and anything man made is not perfect! Things break!

I just hope that censorship will not keep out the ugly things from being reported. That would not be fair to the million viewers of this site! Thank you.

PS: Had it not been for this site, my dealership would not have known so soon about the Farmtrac mess back in January 2008!

 

[jim_n_nh]

Update,

In the past two hours I have spoken to the head of service and the head of marketing for Kioti. There is alot going on behind the scenes.
One fact that I will reveal is it is Kioti's claim to have not be the ones requesting the removal of my threads, in addition they are in favor of having them reappear. If they follow up with the administrator it would speak highly of them. That could change understandable, but since Feb 2008 I have not heard from them, now two phonecalls in one day?

Wouldn't it be nice if both sides could end up being happy?

Jim

 

[SESS]

That is the importance of this thread-to hear ALL sides! Thanks for the updates.

 

[wallace]

 

[Mark_G]

Its not the censorship I disdain so much as the blatant favoritism... Rick Wallace got popcorn and I didn't!

 

[Dodgeram]

Its not the censorship I disdain so much as the blatant favoritism... Rick Wallace got popcorn and I didn't!

He brought his own, but I'll betch'a he didn't bring enough for all of us
Tom

 

[kentrodngun]

He brought his own, but I'll betch'a he didn't bring enough for all of us
Tom

I don't know about that - seems that bag never empties

 

[SnowRidge]

What! No beer? I want refreshment with my entertainment.