Kioti Technical Data Quality

ritcheyvs · Dec 3, 2011

What is your experience with Kioti's technical data?

Personally, I'm not that impressed. For example, I have two undated (although one is certainly older) owners manuals for my DK45S but they show different maintenance schedules. Both owners manuals and the workshop manual seem to be missing about half of the grease fittings (and show fittings where none exist). The workshop manual is thorough in some areas but sketchy in others. So far (with help from others here) this hasn't been a problem for me but it makes me wonder what else I missed.

mrutkaus · Dec 4, 2011

We used to have a guy in this forum who actually WROTE some Kioti Owner's Manuals; they were good.

Mike

IslandTractor · Dec 4, 2011

The newer maintenance manuals are far superior to older ones. As the DK45s is an older generation tractor they may not have the nicer manual for it. There is a big difference between the older CK manual and the newer DKse manual.

Patches · Dec 4, 2011

IslandTractor said:
The newer maintenance manuals are far superior to older ones. As the DK45s is an older generation tractor they may not have the nicer manual for it. There is a big difference between the older CK manual and the newer DKse manual.

If you think the CK manuals are something, you should see the manual that came with my '04 LK:confused2::laughing:

IslandTractor · Dec 4, 2011

Patches said:
If you think the CK manuals are something, you should see the manual that came with my '04 LK:confused2::laughing:

I can believe it. Korenglish is tough in technical manuals! My maintenance manual for the DKse however is really well done with appropriate diagrams and photos as well as native English.

ToadHill · Dec 4, 2011

Even "English" english can be a trip.

Instructions on how to change a tire on an old MG.

Remove tool set from the boot.
Remove spare tyre.
Place lift in proper location and raise slightly.
Place spanner on hub and address it smartly in anti clockwise direction.
Continue raising to remove tyre.
Remove tyre and reverse the process to complete the task.

By the way I know how to spell Tire.

grsthegreat · Dec 4, 2011

ToadHill said:
Even "English" english can be a trip.

Instructions on how to change a tire on an old MG.

Remove tool set from the boot.
Remove spare tyre.
Place lift in proper location and raise slightly.
Place spanner on hub and address it smartly in anti clockwise direction.
Continue raising to remove tyre.
Remove tyre and reverse the process to complete the task.

By the way I know how to spell Tire.

oh blimey

grsthegreat · Dec 4, 2011

I have a set of shop and part manuals for my 2010 DK45SE HST and for the most part they are very well done. There are a few discrepancies... like part numbers on oil filters, but i think this is due to continual part number changes thru the years.

The pictures are VERY nice. I had a service manual for my old JD870 that wasn't done up as nicely as the Kioti's is.

Coyote machine · Dec 8, 2011

ToadHill said:
Even "English" english can be a trip.

Instructions on how to change a tire on an old MG.

Remove tool set from the boot.
Remove spare tyre.
Place lift in proper location and raise slightly.
Place spanner on hub and address it smartly in anti clockwise direction.
Continue raising to remove tyre.
Remove tyre and reverse the process to complete the task.

By the way I know how to spell Tire.

Dear Toadhill, Your reference is to the difference between "the King's English" and ordinary English spoken and written by those rebels in what is known as "the Colonies".
Now for your test: what is the 'boot'? A 'spanner'?
'Addressing it smartly in a clockwise direction'...what are you addressing?
What is the correct name of the tools used on British cars of this vintage?
Answers to follow your best guess.... tick tock....

Oh, and for bonus points, what does MG stand for?

Skyco · Dec 8, 2011

FWIW I bought a genuine Kubota Workshop Manual for my BX24.
Many of the photos are poor, it is very difficult to make out what they are showing.
Inexcusable for what they charge.

MossflowerWoods · Dec 8, 2011

So what is the manual for my DK50se gonna cost me?

Just curious...

David

Redneck in training · Dec 8, 2011

Coyote machine said:
Dear Toadhill, Your reference is to the difference between "the King's English" and ordinary English spoken and written by those rebels in what is known as "the Colonies".
Now for your test: what is the 'boot'? A 'spanner'?
'Addressing it smartly in a clockwise direction'...what are you addressing?
What is the correct name of the tools used on British cars of this vintage?
Answers to follow your best guess.... tick tock....

Oh, and for bonus points, what does MG stand for?

MG stands for Morris Garage.
Boot = trunk
spaner = wrench, tool for removing the central nut holding the wheel.
tool set = tool kit

smstonypoint · Dec 8, 2011

Coyote machine said:
Dear Toadhill, Your reference is to the difference between "the King's English" and ordinary English spoken and written by those rebels in what is known as "the Colonies".

Sir:

England and America are two countries separated by a common language.

Your humble servant,
George Bernard Shaw

IslandTractor · Dec 8, 2011

MossflowerWoods said:
So what is the manual for my DK50se gonna cost me?

Just curious...

David

About $70. Well worth it. It is the single best maintenance manual I've ever seen. It is aimed exactly at non professional DIY tractor owner/mechanics. It provides a well written overview of each area, diagnostic algorithms and then step by step directions that are well illustrated with photos and diagrams. After suffering with piss poor, vague or confusing manuals for just about every mechanical device I've ever tried to maintain before, I'd like to kiss the team that put the new Kioti manual together.

Coyote machine · Dec 8, 2011

Redneck in training said:
MG stands for Morris Garage.
Boot = trunk
spaner = wrench, tool for removing the central nut holding the wheel.
tool set = tool kit

Yo Red,
Is your name Toadhill?:confused2:
Anyway, you got the right answers, but you're ineligible for the bonus points, sorry

grsthegreat · Dec 8, 2011

Coyote machine said:
Dear Toadhill, Your reference is to the difference between "the King's English" and ordinary English spoken and written by those rebels in what is known as "the Colonies".
Now for your test: what is the 'boot'? A 'spanner'?
'Addressing it smartly in a clockwise direction'...what are you addressing?
What is the correct name of the tools used on British cars of this vintage?
Answers to follow your best guess.... tick tock....

Oh, and for bonus points, what does MG stand for?

obvious boot = trunk and spanner is a wrench... and MG means marginally good :laughing:

ritcheyvs · Dec 9, 2011

IslandTractor said:
About $70. Well worth it. It is the single best maintenance manual I've ever seen. It is aimed exactly at non professional DIY tractor owner/mechanics. It provides a well written overview of each area, diagnostic algorithms and then step by step directions that are well illustrated with photos and diagrams. After suffering with piss poor, vague or confusing manuals for just about every mechanical device I've ever tried to maintain before, I'd like to kiss the team that put the new Kioti manual together.

Sounds like a massive improvement over the DK45S workshop manual I bought for about the same cost.