Buying Advice kioti ck35hst sizing

[MtnViewRanch]

I tried all 3 functions with the snowblade just to do it. I'll try it tomorrow with the grapple to see how fast it is. The point I was trying to make is you don't loose a function like you do with a divertor. You don't have to worry have the right function on either.

That normally would not be a concern. Most of the buttons used to control a diverter valve are momentary, so what happens is, if you want the use of the diverter function you push the button, if not you don't. If a person gets confused with this setup, well, there may be other things to be worried about.

 

[94BULLITT]

That normally would not be a concern. Most of the buttons used to control a diverter valve are momentary, so what happens is, if you want the use of the diverter function you push the button, if not you don't. If a person gets confused with this setup, well, there may be other things to be worried about.

That would not be bad if it was a momentary switch and it was on the joystick.

Sorry to derail the thread tedhrs.

 

[94BULLITT]

Roger, you can, but do you actually use all 3 functions at the same time? :confused3: And if you do, just how fast does everything actually move? My 7520 has a 17GPM implement pump and stuff moves slowly operating two functions, I can't imagine how slow things would be if I was operating 3 functions at once.

Just wondering is all. So many talk about having a true 3rd function, and that is all well and good. But how many actually make use of using 3 functions at once and at what speed are they able to do these operations?

I tried all 3 functions with the grapple today. The speed was not bad, it did slow the curl down. It is a lot going on to try to watch.

 

[IslandTractor]

I tried all 3 functions with the grapple today. The speed was not bad, it did slow the curl down. It is a lot going on to try to watch.

After hundreds of hours grappling, I cannot recall a time when I really wanted to use all three functions simultaneously. Typical movement is to open grapple, then position FEL via up/down and dump/curl plus tractor movement to grasp the object(s) then close grapple. No particular need to open/close grapple simultaneously with standard FEL movements.

 

[tedhrs]

That would not be bad if it was a momentary switch and it was on the joystick.

Sorry to derail the thread tedhrs.

Yeah so after reading all this talk of the valves....thinkn i stick with the rear remote setup, possibly get the second set of valves installed....get the hoses run to the same spot as the FEL Disconnects, put in a set of disconnects and then run the rest of the way to the front of the loader. I will be removing the loader enough that it will warrant a disconnect.

On a second note...i've noticed that i am no longer concerned with pricing of the CK series tractors and have fixated myself on the DK series. That being said, i have a dealer close by that has a 2007 DK35SE HST with FEL R4 tires and 450 hours for $16500. Is it worth it to go look at?

I am having an issue with my other dealer being able to provide me with a hands on experience with the DK40SE and am thinking that I will not be buying from him even with the great price. He has been telling me he had a shipment coming in, 3 weeks ago, and still has not seen it. We are only 3.5 hours from the factory. At what point do i Say Enough is Enough? I have began looking around for another tractor as I need to get one. Time is becoming a factor. If he had it last week, it would be sitting in my Garage.....

sorry, just venting.

 

[murphy1244]

Yeah so after reading all this talk of the valves....thinkn i stick with the rear remote setup, possibly get the second set of valves installed....get the hoses run to the same spot as the FEL Disconnects, put in a set of disconnects and then run the rest of the way to the front of the loader. I will be removing the loader enough that it will warrant a disconnect.

On a second note...i've noticed that i am no longer concerned with pricing of the CK series tractors and have fixated myself on the DK series. That being said, i have a dealer close by that has a 2007 DK35SE HST with FEL R4 tires and 450 hours for $16500. Is it worth it to go look at?

I am having an issue with my other dealer being able to provide me with a hands on experience with the DK40SE and am thinking that I will not be buying from him even with the great price. He has been telling me he had a shipment coming in, 3 weeks ago, and still has not seen it. We are only 3.5 hours from the factory. At what point do i Say Enough is Enough? I have began looking around for another tractor as I need to get one. Time is becoming a factor. If he had it last week, it would be sitting in my Garage.....

sorry, just venting.

Well if the dealer broke his word on that I'd hate to count on him for service. Just some advice, Get some seat time on a DK-40 besides the HP difference I like the FEL. 2700 Lbs of lift off!

 

[kiotiken]

Look at a DK45 if PTO work is important. There's a big jump in PTO hp between a DK40 and DK45 and then only a small increase to the DK50. Otherwise stick to the DK40.

 

[kiotiken]

Oh, and that price seems way to high. Good for them if they can get it, but I'd personally spend a couple thousand extra to get a machine that was 6 years newer with no hrs and a full warranty.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I think that most people would agree that the DK40 is Kioti's best bang for the buck tractor.

 

[IslandTractor]

I think that most people would agree that the DK40 is Kioti's best bang for the buck tractor.

By far. Unless you are running some very intensive PTO application such as snow blowing in Canada or perhaps running A/C a lot in a cab version, there just isn't much need for more HP with that frame and typical six foot implements. Traction will limit you more than HP.

 

[kiotiken]

By far. Unless you are running some very intensive PTO application such as snow blowing in Canada or perhaps running A/C a lot in a cab version, there just isn't much need for more HP with that frame and typical six foot implements. Traction will limit you more than HP.

Well, I think IT might be looking at me, and yes, I happen to be blowing snow in Canada and using A/C in the cab, but I still think the best bang for the buck is dependent on the intended use of the tractor and the inventory of dealer you buy from. Depending on your dealers inventory and when they bought that inventory, you may not pay much if any more for a DK45 or there may not be much difference between the DK45 and DK50. In my case, my dealer had a DK45 cab and DK50 cab on the lot, but could do a much better deal on the DK45 (I wanted the DK50). He also didn't have a DK40 cab on the lot and would have had to order one. According to him, he wouldn't be able to do much, if any, better ordering a DK40 because his costs (from Kioti) would be higher than when he bought the DK45, although most of that is probably him wanting to sell what he had and not wanting to order another one.

I think the DK40-50 are all good value for money.

 

[IslandTractor]

Well, I think IT might be looking at me, and yes, I happen to be blowing snow in Canada and using A/C in the cab, but I still think the best bang for the buck is dependent on the intended use of the tractor and the inventory of dealer you buy from. Depending on your dealers inventory and when they bought that inventory, you may not pay much if any more for a DK45 or there may not be much difference between the DK45 and DK50. In my case, my dealer had a DK45 cab and DK50 cab on the lot, but could do a much better deal on the DK45 (I wanted the DK50). He also didn't have a DK40 cab on the lot and would have had to order one. According to him, he wouldn't be able to do much, if any, better ordering a DK40 because his costs (from Kioti) would be higher than when he bought the DK45, although most of that is probably him wanting to sell what he had and not wanting to order another one.

I think the DK40-50 are all good value for money.

I agree. The difference in cost to the manufacturer is virtually nothing as the only difference between the three tractors is the bore and stroke. Kioti makes more money on a DK50 but can price them occasionally close to the DK40 and still make the same profit as selling a DK40. Marketing is what it's all about.

 

[tedhrs]

So i've opted to not go with the DK40SE from this dealer. After multiple times of him agreeing the to price he wrote down, he calls me yesterday and states that he cannot do it at that price. I'm a little ticked off and have started looking elsewhere. Was really looking forward to dealing with him.

 

[dustinfox]

So i've opted to not go with the DK40SE from this dealer. After multiple times of him agreeing the to price he wrote down, he calls me yesterday and states that he cannot do it at that price. I'm a little ticked off and have started looking elsewhere. Was really looking forward to dealing with him.

Funny... The same thing happened with my dealer. He gave me a price and reneged the next day.

 

[GreenWannabe]

My dealer realized he made a pricing mistake in my favor last year, but sold me the tractor at the agreed price anyway. So different dealers have different policies.

 

[dustinfox]

My dealer realized he made a pricing mistake in my favor last year, but sold me the tractor at the agreed price anyway. So different dealers have different policies.

My dealer didn't make a mistake. He changed his mind.

 

[tedhrs]

My dealer didn't make a mistake. He changed his mind.

Same here, well, he made a calculation mistake and then changed his mind from saying he would honor that price to no, he couldn't make any money on the sale if he went with the first price.

 

[dustinfox]

Same here, well, he made a calculation mistake and then changed his mind from saying he would honor that price to no, he couldn't make any money on the sale if he went with the first price.

LOL... My dealer simply changed his mind! I asked him for a price on a new CK-30 over the phone (no particular one). He called me back the next day and gave me a price on a current year CK-30. So I came in the following day to talk business at which time he gave me a new (higher) price. If he did make a mistake the first time he didn't say so. My guess is that he did get it wrong and didn't want to admit it but he would have been better off just being frank about it.

 

[kiotiken]

My guess is that he did get it wrong and didn't want to admit it but he would have been better off just being frank about it.

Changing prices or giving a low price to get you in the door shows the character of the dealer you're dealing with. There's some debate on TBN as to the importance a dealer really plays, but in my book, the dealer is very important. If things are going to start poorly they likely wont end well. Imagine the treatment you're in for when they already have your money.

 

[tedhrs]

I have not driven by the dealership as of late, but am thinking of stopping in to see if he wants to rethink himself on this deal. I told him flat out, if he could get me the tractor in to test drive, do some hands on, then he would have it sold at that price.