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greg_g · Nov 3, 2005

( how would the pto shaft compresss enough for that to happen )

The "flip" I experienced was so fast, there wasn't time to compress. And if your shaft is cut to the proper length for the implement, the compression factor is mere inches. When the deck "flips" up, the tranny gets considerably closer to the tractor spline. The shaft has no choice but to pretzel.

I was able to clutch/brake before serious damage was inflicted to me or the tractor. But the toplink was ruined, and I had to put the PTO shaft in hydraulic press. Trying to pry apart a bent and compressed PTO shaft can be a challenge.

//greg//

jinman · Nov 3, 2005

( Usually, I would be mowing (Brush Hogging) up grade and the front of the tractor would start to come up off the ground.... )

Hmm...
I believe I see the unsafe practice here, and it has nothing to do with a connected toplink. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Farmwithjunk · Nov 3, 2005

( ( Usually, I would be mowing (Brush Hogging) up grade and the front of the tractor would start to come up off the ground.... )

Hmm...
I believe I see the unsafe practice here, and it has nothing to do with a connected toplink. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )

We have a term here in Kentucky, for ground where your tractor starts to rare up part way up the hill.....

FLAT LAND!

You aughtta see what we consider a hill. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

jinman · Nov 3, 2005

( We have a term here in Kentucky, for ground where your tractor starts to rare up part way up the hill.....

FLAT LAND!

You aughtta see what we consider a hill. )

Sounds to me like you need to put away your rotary cutter and get out the G-O-A-T mower. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Farmwithjunk · Nov 3, 2005

We never have a problem with drainage issues.

Funny you should mention goats. The oldest grandchild is 4H age next year. I've been planning on helping her with raising her first steer. Her dad wanted to show a hog, mom wanted sheep, my wife suggested rabbits.

So, Corine NATURALLY, decided she wants to raise a goat.

Soundguy · Nov 3, 2005

( how would the pto shaft compresss enough for that to happen )

I've actually helped repair my stepfathers tractor twice now.. both pto section failures.. pto shaft was pushed INTO the rear o fthe tractor.. took out the independent clutch, ate up the pto bearing carrier.. broke snap rings.. etc.

Once was an employee using a tiller that had too long of a shaft.. once was with an old mower.. and one of the two bottom arms popped off the mower as a pin came out. in a split second the pto shaft got in a bing and corkscrewed.. rippingthe pto shaft out..

So.. I don't put much 'hope' in waiting for the 2-pice rotating pto shaft to help me any in a compression situation... seems like with the rotational energy they fold right up.. or when push comes to shove.. the little pto bearing carrier onthe tractor stub isn't strong to prevent much compression.. etc. ( Byt the way.. this was on a JD 2240... a nice beefy 1979 50hp tractor... )

( but wouldn't the ROPS in a backflip situation, or the bush hog flipping up, on the modern tractors, protect us from injury )

Yes.. a rops is designed to stall a backflip.. and a tractor without a rops.. but with a rear 3tp implement.. likt a box blade.. will have some 'rear' rollover protection due tot he max angle the tractor can lean back befroe the 3pt travel limit is reached. IMHO, most scut/cut tractors would not be able to perform a straight backflip with a rear box on the 3pt, due to angle and tire size, the box would stop tractor's nose from going past the flipping point. Now.. a realy large tractor with real big rears, and a small box tucked in clse.. might make it over... wouldn't want to be the test case either way /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As for a rops stopping a mower backflip / operator injury with mower flipping up... maybee... if the rops are angled back enough to keep the mower deck / gerbox from smacking you inthe head /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Again.. I don't want to be the test case!!

Soundguy

jinman · Nov 3, 2005

( So, Corine NATURALLY, decided she wants to raise a goat. )

Just be sure you don't have any objects near the fence that it can climb up on and jump over the fence. I swear my wife's goats would try to climb up and stand on a toothpick if you stuck it in the ground. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Farmwithjunk · Nov 3, 2005

One more "project animal" around here and they're going to need to watching ME to keep me from climbing the fence and escaping. I LOVE dogs, but the wife thinks she needs to rescue every stray mutt that wanders this way. We currently have 7. 2 cats, 14 cows, about 25 or 30 chickens, 5 grandkids, 1 wife, and now a goat. Feeding time is a 24 hour a day ritual.

The upside to the goat thing? I have a hardy crop of poison ivy behind the barn. I hear they eat it like candy.

Soundguy · Nov 3, 2005

Same here.. 3 horses, a cow, about 45 assorted fowl ( ducks/chix/turkey/pigeon).. 5 dogs, and 13 cats.

I had 1 cat when i met my wife.. and it was a stray pickup ( cat.. not wife /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ).. and now we have all that. 1 dog we actually bought... Add to that about 100 domestic 'pet birds ( cockatiels, finches, keets.. etc... hmm.. a rabbit.. turtle.. gecko.. lots of fresh water fish...

My feed bill from the local co-op is a couple hundred a month easy... more in the winter when I'm buying bales for the 'hay burners'... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Soundguy