K58 vs K46 differences and X304 upgrade

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Voyager6

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John Deere X540, X304, X310
I have recently purchased a 2008 Deere X304 4WS model that was used commercially with 1557 hours use. Needless to say, the K46 is toast, only will pull for five minutes and groaned loudly. I looked around and decided to upgrade it to the K58. Given all the negative talk about the K46, I can't believe this is the original transmission in the mower. The dealer that took it as trade in didn't have any records to share.

So the first thing needed was to upgrade the rear universal joints to fit the 1 inch axle diameter (Pricey at $140 each). The second thing is that there aren't any good pictures of the short stubby axles needed by the X304. Rather than a circlip and keyway, the axles were shorter and had the last 1.5 inches splined, which fit the universal joints. Other than that, the front transmission mount was located differently as the casing is at least an inch further to the front of the mower than the K46. The three control rods connecting to the transmission are the same, or can be adjusted to fit easily. the forward/reverse rod had to be rotated to fit on the opposite side of the transmission arm due to space since it is closer to the frame than the K46.

Not knowing better, I bought a K58A transmission for $500 delivered from a vendor on eb*y. The Deere parts diagrams and the Tuff Torq diagrams show the standard keyed/circlipped axles for the K58B. They are wrong. Fortunately, there is a photo on TT's parts site that shows the short stubby axles. Replacement axles are not available from Deere, you have to go to TT. The axles, seals and gasket material and new caps and shipping ran about $150. I purchased the Tuff Torq oil drain plugs, too. Do not be confused, they call one screw and sealing washer a Kit, so you need two kits to do the job.

There is a K46 axle replacement PDF document and I figured it would apply (after studying the parts diagrams of the K58).Open the bottom case, pull two clips on one side, change seal (if necessary), change axle, and put clips back in. Repeat for other side. Easy as pie. Not.

First, there are only one set of K58 internal pictures on the internet. Casual inspection makes you think the case is identical to the K46, with upgraded components. Not quite. I removed the plastic caps and drained the oil out and then removed the 16 bolts holding the lower case to the upper. First, the lower cover did not want to come off easily. I rocked and wiggled it and finally it came off, with the middle gear shaft stuck to the lower case lid. This isn't supposed to happen. To make things worse, parts started falling off the lower case.

I got the reduction gears, washers and shaft off the lower case. When I was done, I had four dark brown steel blocks. Two were rectangular with little nubs on one end and a half moon bearing on the other. TT calls these support bushings. The nubs sit in mating holes in the upper case and basically raise the shaft up from the motor and differential. The reason is that the K58 reduction gear has more teeth. With fixed spacing, this makes a larger diameter gear, needing the bearing to be raised above the aluminum of the upper case. the lower case has the other half moon bearing molded into it and the steel blocks fit semi-snugly into recesses in the aluminum. The shaft stuck to the lower case lid because excess gasket material leaked into the area where the metal blocks went, gluing them and the reduction shaft, temporarily in place.

The other two blocks turned out to be the two pads of the internal disc brake. Not too many pictures show these parts clearly and the parts diagram does not show the disc in between the two parts. The final issue is that in trial fitting the lower cover back on, it did not fit closed. One of the two steel reduction shaft blocks was turned around.

The axle change was easy as expected once the loose parts issue was sorted. I lubed the axles and they didn't nick the seals coming out or going in, so I didn't have to change seals, although I have them if ever need them.

The K58 has four magnets. Many K46s have only two and TT offers an additional two near the filter as an upgrade for the center housing. One at the upper fill port, one near the differential, and two next to the filter for the hydraulics. These are pretty weak ceramic magnets. I figured that if more magnets are better, then stronger magnets are better yet. I put two 1 inch x .25 inch 20 lb magnets next to the filter under the bracket. Slightly too big, they still fit and won't hit the case when it is closed. I put one 1 inch by 1/8 inch 14 lb magnet at the oil fill (fits the bracket perfectly) and one in the case. This should capture more and finer iron debris and should help prolong the life of the transmission. The neobdynum magnets are temperature sensitive and can start to lose magnetism starting at 180F. In theory, the oil could get that hot, but not much more. Since these magnets are 4 to 5 times the strength of the factory magnets, I am not worrying too much. In addition, I used Castrol Edge 5W50 oil, which should knock some of the temperatures (and will pay attention to keeping the transmission case and fan clean).

Oh, one other thing to note: All K58s have the narrow part of the triangular wedge pointing out of the case (up looking down at the upper case). For those considering a K58 upgrade, the front transmission mount and the direction of the wedge may come into play. And of course the 1 inch versus 3/4 inch axles will require new rims or hubs, depending on your wheel attachment.

With nearly 1600 hours, you can image that the rest of the mower is worn out. I stripped, painted and replaced all moving parts on the deck. painted the fenderdeck, cleaned inches of trapped grass and dirt muck under the fenderdeck, and will be putting a new Kawasaki engine on this weekend, and replaced right front tie rod ends. I changed to new tires and painted the rims. The restoration finishes with a new hood, headlight lens and lower plastic bumper. It looks almost new.
 
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Finished the X304 today. I want this post to describe the engine swap. The 2008 X304 had a Kawasaki FH491V engine. The hour meters was about 1600 hours, so I expected there wasn't much life left and I wanted this tractor to last 20 years. So I scanned the usual sources and finally found a really inexpensive Kawasaki FR600V, which appeared to be the same as the FS600V shipping with many new Deere X300 series models. The only difference between the FR and FS series seemed to be the carburetor and air cleaner, with the FS having more protection and better flow to account for the 18.5 HP rating of the FS600V versus the 18HP of the FR600V.

Friday, I pulled the old engine out. Cleaned the frame and worked on a Steering issue (replaced two bearings in the 90 degree steering gear shaft). Didn't get to start work on the new engine until late Saturday. I had it bolted in and throttle and choke cables attached (backwards), but gave up when I realized the FR600V came with a different wiring harness connector (8 pin white molex versus a spade blade connector on the X304 harness and on the FH491V. There also wasn't a starter relay on the new engine, the starter had just one stud to wire. So I had to cannibalize the parts from the old engine.

The next big problem was that the block was a completely different design than the old engine. the left rear of the old engine had two mounting holes in the bottom, the new engine had one,used for the mounting screw. So I had to relocate the ground cable from the battery to another unused threaded hole on the block. Different screw size, of course. Had to find a screw/bolt that would work.

Next came the wiring harness. Fortunately, the wiring to the internal of the new Kawasaki was the same colors and location. So a simple engine wiring harness swap should work... right? until I realized I was missing a starter relay. So off came the starter relay on the old engine, and then to find a spot on the block that all wires in the old harness would work. Found a good spot, but was able to support the relay with only one screw as the relay was integral with a steel stamped mount that was designed for the FH491V. In any case, no wires had to be cut, spliced or not used. It was mostly a plug and play situation.

I tried starting it and it wouldn't stay started, finally realized I had the choke and throttle backwards. Fixed that and give it some throttle and it started right up. Used Deere Turf Gard as break in oil.

Anyway, there is so little info on the internet on the starter relays needed for the smaller and mid-size engines the higher end (larger) have true starters with solenoids. Anyway, I got to see a new X310 today with the FS600V engine, and compared the relay and wiring location, and they were virtually identical (except the X310's relay bracket was properly shaped for the FS600V block.

Anyway, I know the model number then spec number (FR600V-AS05-R). I wish someone would list what each spec number means. I know the crankshaft size and length are part (X300 series needs 1 inch by 3 5/32), I now realize the wiring harness is probably customized for each OPE manufacturer in the spec number.

Other things I changed to support the new engine: I ordered all four new stamped metal muffler heat shieds as JDparts indicated there was a change when going to the newer engines. I also bought a new muffler (it was pricey, ouch!). Installing the new muffler on the larger motor is not easy. the inner exhaust port studs are almost unreachable if you mount the engine first and then try to put the new muffler and nuts on the flange. I had to turn the engine on the side (no oil yet to worry about) and tighten the nuts and then install the engine and muffler on the frame as a single assembly. I then installed the four engine mounting bolts and the two bolts that hold the muffler to the frame. Then the sheet metal. I had to transfer two sheet metal nut clips from old tin to the new lower heat shield. Otherwise, the screws went where they were supposed to.

The FR600V came with a foot long fuel tube and fuel filter. Unfortunately, it was about three inches too short to replace the fuel line from the original fuel filter (with the idea to pull the old Deere filter and just plug the Kawasaki filter in its place). The fuel pump was moved further back on the engine, towards the drivers seat. So I just cut the too long original hose and reused the existing fuel filter and location.

Anyway, I am amazed at how much I had to do to make a new Kawasaki replace a not too older version.
 
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I hope the OP is still monitoring this thread as I am going to start to do the same transaxle swap. Fortunately The K58B I'm getting comes with ujoints and carrier member so I shouldn't have a problem there. But I didn't know about the difference in the front trans mounting. How did you solve that?
 

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