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/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #261  
My VERY BEST Guess. Do whatever it takes to create crime and anarchy, defund the police. THEN, when society is in flames and ruin, invoke TOTAL CONTROL by whatever means you like. You think there is Police Brutality now?

Although the U.S. Constitution makes no specific provision for the imposition of martial law, nearly every State has a constitutional provision authorizing the government to impose martial law.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #262  
For what it's worth. This is not Parroted information. It's simply my best guess as to what could possibly be a motive for what would otherwise simpy be insane behavior..
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #263  
Well, it’s great to have an actual scientist to advise us. Please put your credentials out here for full evaluation and to establish your legitimacy.



TBS
I already have. See post #63. I'd be happy to elaborate further.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #264  
I already have. See post #63. I'd be happy to elaborate further.

Here's some advice...unless you are willing to give up your anonymity...don't go spouting off about academic creds...otherwise it just proves naivety...
...You think you are the only one here who has advanced degrees?...how about a listing in Who's Who ??...you might be surprised...!
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #265  
Here's some advice...unless you are willing to give up your anonymity...don't go spouting off about academic creds...otherwise it just proves naivety...
...You think you are the only one here who has advanced degrees?...how about a listing in Who's Who ??...you might be surprised...!
If you think I'm on here lying about my education, background, and qualifications, well, that's your problem, not mine.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #266  
I always believe that a mans reported qualifications should come from another anyway.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #267  
If you think I'm on here lying about my education, background, and qualifications, well, that's your problem, not mine.
Just quantifying (stating) them in order to support opinions and positions says enough...especially when proclaiming suppositions based on an inexact science...
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #268  
As I mentioned in my post, this is hard for individuals to believe, which is understandable in today's climate. But, to try to convince you, there are two things to think about.

1) I am directly involved in scientific research. I can honestly, and with a clear conscience, say that never in my 20+ years of education and work in the field, have I ever seen any decision made that could even slightly be interpreted as being motivated by political agendas. This may be different in social science fields (I don't know as I'm not involved in them), but within engineering? Never once.

2) Ok, you don't know me, and maybe don't trust me. Fine. Let's look at the motivations. As a scientist/researcher, you are entirely judged and evaluated on the science that you perform, and are held to a very high standard on the ethical nature of your work. To be compromised by any political agenda would immediately discredit you and your work, and make you an instant pariah in the field. I don't know anyone that would find that an acceptable risk.

This is actually one of the discussions in the scientific community that has revolved around Fauci and his involvement with the white house. Namely, have his efforts to walk a narrow line where he focuses on the science, but has to do so without angering the white house, compromised his ethics and his credibility?

Every researcher continually evaluates and asks themselves if they have compromised their ethics to safeguard against any improprieties from undue influence.

Both of my “Lol” responses were short, on purpose. Because I believe that you believe the information you are sharing is the only way. It’s not, but I respect the fact that your taking the time to share it.

There are scientific studies that do in fact contradict what you state are facts.

What this response (quoted)proves is that you likely have integrity and ethics, but shows nothing as far as others.

I work for .gov and don’t believe a word they or any of their employees/contractors/grantees, etc say.

Just here in PA, 7 county coroners have come
Out and said publicly that the ****bag wolf and the head doc Levene were playing games with the numbers.....that type of factual evidence, is everywhere.

A piece of cotton, isn’t going to stop anything. It is virtue signaling, with a side of cancel culture and it is absurd to think otherwise.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #269  
Both of my “Lol” responses were short, on purpose. Because I believe that you believe the information you are sharing is the only way. It’s not, but I respect the fact that your taking the time to share it.

There are scientific studies that do in fact contradict what you state are facts.

What this response (quoted)proves is that you likely have integrity and ethics, but shows nothing as far as others.

I work for .gov and don’t believe a word they or any of their employees/contractors/grantees, etc say.

Just here in PA, 7 county coroners have come
Out and said publicly that the ****bag wolf and the head doc Levene were playing games with the numbers.....that type of factual evidence, is everywhere.

A piece of cotton, isn’t going to stop anything. It is virtue signaling, with a side of cancel culture and it is absurd to think otherwise.
I'm not saying politicians aren't twisting things to fit their narrative. That's pretty obvious from the highly varied responses by state.

I'm saying the scientists that don't have any skin in the game, per say, and aren't up for election/reappointment are simply trying to find the truth.

I'm not trying to be snarky when I say this (tone doesn't always come through right via text) but individuals keep saying "there are plenty of scientific studies showing masks don't work," but yet no one can cite/link to a single peer-reviewed scientific article that supports this position.

Yet, there are a litany of studies that show face coverings do decrease infection risk, and I'm happy to point to them if so interested.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #271  
...but yet no one can cite/link to a single peer-reviewed scientific article that supports this position....
A lot of the sources are the exact same...(Who would pay for studies that show masks are not as effective as what some are saying?)...FYI...What they (the studies) don't say speaks volumes for for those with differing opinions from those trying to prove the effectiveness...

Like I said...most of the studies say "can" and "may" be effective...in preventing the spread...
Without knowing how many of the reported (positive) cases by mask wearers there is no way the "science" can be accurate...regardless of what any research shows or does not show... it's all supposition and conjecture...that's reality realize it or not...!
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #274  
If you think I'm on here lying about my education, background, and qualifications, well, that's your problem, not mine.

If you are going to spout credentials you can’t prove in order to be taken seriously you have lost all credibility.


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/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #275  
I'm not saying politicians aren't twisting things to fit their narrative. That's pretty obvious from the highly varied responses by state.

I'm saying the scientists that don't have any skin in the game, per say, and aren't up for election/reappointment are simply trying to find the truth.

I'm not trying to be snarky when I say this (tone doesn't always come through right via text) but individuals keep saying "there are plenty of scientific studies showing masks don't work," but yet no one can cite/link to a single peer-reviewed scientific article that supports this position.

Yet, there are a litany of studies that show face coverings do decrease infection risk, and I'm happy to point to them if so interested.


You and rswyan are the same. You each have no credibility.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #277  
I wonder if some of these people are Russians trying to get us to go out and infect each other?
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #278  
I must disagree with the idea that money and politics don稚 influence research, I think they do.

I almost went on a rant but controlled myself.

I will say this.....I worked with scientists, professors and engineers for years. Just like everyone else, good, bad, motivated, unmotivated.

Last comment.....I learned this years ago. A tenured professor in the US is the least stressful job out there.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #279  
If you are going to spout credentials you can’t prove in order to be taken seriously you have lost all credibility.

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Here's the same argument applied to you....

If you're going to spout that you live in Texas but won't post your real name and address, you have lost all credibility.
 
/ just when you thought you knew what stupid was #280  
This has already been addressed. (See post 223). Every study listed there is related to seasonal influenza, not SARS-CoV-2. Different viruses behave differently.

Furthermore, as FatJay pointed out, each of those studies only looks at the effectiveness of masks and their ability to protect the individual. As the extensive literature shows, and as has been explained here in this thread, masks stop the expiration of infected droplets. So, they protect others more than they protect you.

Understanding this, the results of each of those studies makes perfect sense. Have a control group wear a mask (no one else in public does) and people with masks still get sick. This is precisely what scientists have been saying.
 
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