Just got off the phone with kioti

[coobie]

I haven't posted anything lately we are at the hospital in Vermont right now. I didn't turn down any trailering to Whittemore I just told him wanted to move forward to AG. Also I talk to the AG and I have a strong case how I was threaded from day one of owning fighting with giving me a run around on the starting problem and the tires in the back had gashes in them. Took a month to get new ones. Yes Whittemore came and replaced things like the ignition switch but it took kioti a month to send one as the AG office said two or three days to get a part not a month. I wasn't yelling until that rep said what he said. I'm sure that kioti is a good tractor I just got a lemon. Like any other brand will have a lemon. Then the rep calls and ask if I would trade and I said yes even trade they told me to call the dealer I did they offered me a 6,000 Dollar trade in because it has a know electrical issue. Also had high hrs at 195. It would be the fourth time with this issue.

I would sure like to here that recorded message.PM me and I will give you my phone number to listen that message.Good luck and prayers for your daughters good health.coobie

 

[Gil Case]

Why would someone find it so "interesting" that people keep talking about this thread after the OP has probably been exposed to his folly for rejecting a very generous offer that may have solved all of his issues?
:confused3:

It is interesting for the very reason you stated. That people will speculate about the solution to a problem with no input from the person who is purported to know the facts. Just idle chat on my part and theirs.

 

[lilranch2001]

It is interesting for the very reason you stated. That people will speculate about the solution to a problem with no input from the person who is purported to know the facts. Just idle chat on my part and theirs.

I would guess a fairly large part of the posts on TBN is just that..... idle chat

 

[bcp]

I would guess a fairly large part of the posts on TBN is just that..... idle chat

If you don't go off on a tangent, you are just going around in circles.



Bruce

 

[Coyote machine]

195 hours isn't high hours, in fact it is hardly any hours at all by anyone's standards. $6000 is a ludicrous trade in on that tractor regardless of any supposed electrical issue. This tractor and it's 'lemon- like' status have been beaten to death on this forum over and over again to no avail. The OP can't communicate well, the dealer done him wrong, Kioti corporate mistreated him, and he gets slashed tires, stolen winches, etc., etc.
His best bet is to use his 'artistic' skills and paint a big lemon on the tractor and post it on youtube, facebook, on the AG's web page, etc.
BTW, the AG's office can say whatever they want about how long it should take to deliver parts, but they have no influence over that whatsoever.
This plays out like a dog chasing it's own tail. Enough already, put it on the roadside running, set it on fire, drive it into a deep lake, whatever it takes to end this never ending nightmare.

 

[ritcheyvs]

Not to belabor this, but CM's comments are right on. LaK has a low-time machine that is worth at least 2-3x the offered $6K assuming normal wear and tear. Also, if the problems are limited to something electrical it should not be particularly costly or difficult to fix once the real cause is known, but isolating the real problem can be frustrating I'd guess the starter and the instrument panel are the most expensive likely causes. . LaK has had nothing but problems since the tractor was delivered and he has bigger problems currently. Recommend not judging LaK unless you've walked a mile in his shoes.

 

[rmorey]

Not to belabor this, but CM's comments are right on. LaK has a low-time machine that is worth at least 2-3x the offered $6K assuming normal wear and tear. Also, if the problems are limited to something electrical it should not be particularly costly or difficult to fix once the real cause is known, but isolating the real problem can be frustrating I'd guess the starter and the instrument panel are the most expensive likely causes. . LaK has had nothing but problems since the tractor was delivered and he has bigger problems currently. Recommend not judging LaK unless you've walked a mile in his shoes.

Right on Scott, this poor guy has fought with this tractor for 195 hours. It's time he caught a break.

 

[landedakioti]

Tell yay would like cm to tread tractors and see how he would like this tractor. Not starting and to deal with incompetent kioti rep and the NJ dealer at first. MIT have a 4year warranty that takes a month to get a part. For the first year of owning the tractor only had maybe six months of use if lucky if it starts and stays running. Then have kioti tell you to unplug everything and plug it back in it should start. That work a little bit. Sucked crawling under in the winter. I'm share I would have been happy with this tractor if it wasn't a piece of crap lemon.

 

[coobie]

Tell yay would like cm to tread tractors and see how he would like this tractor. Not starting and to deal with incompetent kioti rep and the NJ dealer at first. MIT have a 4year warranty that takes a month to get a part. For the first year of owning the tractor only had maybe six months of use if lucky if it starts and stays running. Then have kioti tell you to unplug everything and plug it back in it should start. That work a little bit. Sucked crawling under in the winter. I'm share I would have been happy with this tractor if it wasn't a piece of crap lemon.

WOW ???

 

[RickB]

WOW ???

This thread is a(nother) total waste of bandwidth.

 

[coobie]

This thread is a(nother) total waste of bandwidth.

You got that correct.

 

[murphy1244]

I will be a very nice guy and give you 7K for the machine.

 

[landedakioti]

Getting tired of some of the it's the op . I grew up on tractors my first time driving one at age 5 in the field then at age 6 down the road. After a year with a tractor that keeps craping out more has made use struggle to get the road in at a non profit and to get wood out and cut and split to help people heat there homes. Could get the vegetable garden in to help feed people because I can't keep it running to clean it up . When you get the runaround from a dealer and at kioti from day one that gets tiring too. Then a sick daughter and other family members are sick and die ing. Then one of the kids that we were teaching end his life because got tired of being bulled. I know how that feels from some of the people on here. So going from a hospital to hospital then seeing my grandfather the man that raised is sick, to getting a call that another child ended there life and I was asked to make the urn of a child that couldn't take the abuses anymore. So yeah I'm upset at a company that give the run around that takes time to get parts and if I could get to the dealer again for another 400.00 to I have them deal with the same issues for the forth time. At yet again 400.00 gets a little pissed off . It was nice that Whittemore came out that one time to help. How would you guys feel if you where walking in my shoes on this tractor.

 

[coobie]

Getting tired of some of the it's the op . I grew up on tractors my first time driving one at age 5 in the field then at age 6 down the road. After a year with a tractor that keeps craping out more has made use struggle to get the road in at a non profit and to get wood out and cut and split to help people heat there homes. Could get the vegetable garden in to help feed people because I can't keep it running to clean it up . When you get the runaround from a dealer and at kioti from day one that gets tiring too. Then a sick daughter and other family members are sick and die ing. Then one of the kids that we were teaching end his life because got tired of being bulled. I know how that feels from some of the people on here. So going from a hospital to hospital then seeing my grandfather the man that raised is sick, to getting a call that another child ended there life and I was asked to make the urn of a child that couldn't take the abuses anymore. So yeah I'm upset at a company that give the run around that takes time to get parts and if I could get to the dealer again for another 400.00 to I have them deal with the same issues for the forth time. At yet again 400.00 gets a little pissed off . It was nice that Whittemore came out that one time to help. How would you guys feel if you where walking in my shoes on this tractor.

While I feel very sorry for your family problems how is this kioti tractors fault?Seems to me you are looking for a FREE RIDE in life.Have to tell ya life is tough sometimes.Do you think for one minute you are the only one on earth that has family issues?Think again.Your whole story is like some soap opera on TV.Let it go and suck it up and quit Bitchen.coobie

 

[landedakioti]

While I feel very sorry for your family problems how is this kioti tractors fault?Seems to me you are looking for a FREE RIDE in life.Have to tell ya life is tough sometimes.Do you think for one minute you are the only one on earth that has family issues?Think again.coobie

Free ride what are you a dip . I have worked my whole life I didn't take the guys offer to bring my tractor to the dealer because I would want to pay him. Right now I can't . But when the same issues keeps coming up and they want 400.00 a pop because kioti corp won't replace the wires harnes or some other things that are defective on it . Know know dude done talking to you should waste my breath.

 

[WilliamBos]

This thread is a(nother) total waste of bandwidth.

I see we agree once again!! Sorta rare though.

 

[coobie]

Free ride what are you a dip . I have worked my whole life I didn't take the guys offer to bring my tractor to the dealer because I would want to pay him. Right now I can't . But when the same issues keeps coming up and they want 400.00 a pop because kioti corp won't replace the wires harnes or some other things that are defective on it . Know know dude done talking to you should waste my breath.

Sorry you feel that way.You have played your sympathy card to the bitter end.Members on this site have offered to help you. IMHO folks are getting tired of it.It makes one wonder how much of your story is true BS?coobie

 

[Fordman1981]

In my opinion, the first time I have an issue with my tractor while it's under warranty, it's on me to get the tractor to the dealership--whether I have to pay for the dealer to pick it up, or trailer it there myself. If the issue is supposedly fixed, and I get the tractor back and the exact same issue comes up again while the tractor is still under warranty, I expect a little more from the dealer and I certainly wouldn't pay them $400 to pick up the tractor a second or third time. It's bad enough the same issue is causing me to lose the use of my tractor multiple times, but asking me to pay $400 more than once is just adding insult to injury.

 

[GMtb42]

In my opinion, the first time I have an issue with my tractor while it's under warranty, it's on me to get the tractor to the dealership--whether I have to pay for the dealer to pick it up, or trailer it there myself. If the issue is supposedly fixed, and I get the tractor back and the exact same issue comes up again while the tractor is still under warranty, I expect a little more from the dealer and I certainly wouldn't pay them $400 to pick up the tractor a second or third time. It's bad enough the same issue is causing me to lose the use of my tractor multiple times, but asking me to pay $400 more than once is just adding insult to injury.

Just it he hasn't paid anything as of yet for repairs. Everything has been free so far, and if I remember correctly LaK stated that his Father-in-law was taking care of the tractor for LaK so he could concentrate on his daughter.
This gets stranger and stranger, it almost looks as if thought someone is trying to use a tractor then after doing what they have to do with it, wants the manufacture to turn around and buy the tractor back. You would have to pay for the 195 hours of use if you do get the AG to force Kioti to buy the tractor back, trust me I know I went through this with a Ford Truck. You have to pay for what you use.

 

[Coyote machine]

Here's the facts: ANY diesel tractor engine has a starting circuit and an ignition circuit. Could they each have problems on this tractor? Possibly, though not likely. If the ignition switch is/was bad and Kioti was switching to another supplier it could take time to get the newer model switch because of back order, etc.
Could the starting circuit have a bad cable to the battery or starter? Possibly. Does dealing with Connie at Kioti Corporate make for a frustrating day, Yes, when she was there running interference.
Could most of us fix this tractor? I can't say what other's skill set is but I believe I could if it was in front of me.
You want to swap out tractors? No way- but if you're anywhere near Bethel, ME, I might be coming down to ME for a few days later this month.
And yes, as stated, ALL of us have family issues and bad stuff happen to us and family, UNFORTUNATELY. I don't wish anyone bad luck/karma. My best friend just died in Burlington at 51 because they could not figure out what was wrong with his lungs. I watched him die at Fletcher Allen, on morphine and 100% oxygen.
Most of us have some horror story to tell, and truth is stranger than fiction.
However this doesn't make your tractor a piece of crap or a lemon. There is a big orange sticker on my radiator frame which states that transportation to / from the dealer is NOT covered under warranty.
You wanted to save money and bought in NJ. Now you have trouble engaging a dealer in ME with your tractor's issues. There is no real upside to your situation with the ME dealer.
So let me know what you want to do - if you're a reasonable distance I MIGHT be able to help out.
That's the best I can offer. You can PM me your phone # if you want.