Just bought some Biodiesel

[Docsknotinn]

Thanx for the tip. I'll give it a look. The other fellow who posted had the nearest station about 1.5 hours away. But I might buy a few extra tanks and keep it on my list for when the boss just wants to go for a drive. Are you useing DFA in the BIO or just the regular pump stuff ?

 

[cowboydoc]

I get all of my fuel delivered Dave. I go through about 500 gallons a month or more in the summer. Mine is through the F/S coop.

 

[Docsknotinn]

wow, What you do drive in circles or have employees to run those things ? Does that count your truck too or just the tractor ? I probably burn 150 gallons a month in the duramax and 5 in the tractor, lol, but then I'm just playing at deer camp and not really doing anything that could be considered financially beneficial. Do you get better prices that way ?

 

[Hambone]

Good afternoon.
I also saw that you can get a tax credit for using Biodiesel.
I also read you must use a 20% blend.
Does anyone know of the credit?
I called my supplier this afternoon to see what kind of price and availability he can get.
I (the company) usually buy 7500 gallons every eight days, so a tax credit would sure help out the company, the environment, the local farmers, and the company image.
I also have to check with Cat, Cummins, and International for warranty issues.
Lots to do.

 

[cowboydoc]

One hay cutting and I'll go through 200 gallons Dave. Go through quite a bit in the pickup too. I'm farming a little over a thousand acres here. I mowed pastures and fencelines this weekend and went through 30 gallons in the 5420 just doing that.

Back home we go through about 2500 gallons in the summertime.

We do get better prices depending on how it goes. We usually will contract our fuel just like alot of people do for propane. Usually you buy cheaper in the winter and spring. You have to contract for a specific amount. That means you have to buy that much every month. Even if you don't buy it you still get charged for it regardless.

 

[Hambone]

Here some interesting reading.

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/assets/pdf/dyk300i.pdf

 

[cowboydoc]

The tax credits mostly come if you are producing the biodiesel. There are some credits for using but you have to use quite a bit to make it pay. In your case I definitely think you could qualify. At that biodiesel.org they have all the information to call on it.

Also all of the major mfg. have approved the biodiesel.

 

[Docsknotinn]

I did enough hay bailing Stacking and hauling for Friday night fun money when I was a kid. I do NOT miss doing that. Of course I think my take on it would be a whole lot different if it were my own place. All dairy farms where I grew up. Maybee thats why I like steak better than milk. lol. I sent an e-mail to the nearest distributor for the Bio diesel. I see on the sight they have it broken down by what they sell. I assume the 100 comes in a barrel or small drum. Because of the distance it will likely be more cost effective and practical If I get it that way and blend my own for the tractor. I assume that you are in Iowa Doc and Idaho is home. OK Ok no potatoe jokes. lol. The Potatoe capital of Mi is about 20 miles from moms place. Did you grow up in idaho doc ? I gotta ask if your a out doorsman or sportsman. It seems like I would have been in heaven there growing up instead of a resort town. Dave

 

[cowboydoc]

Dave,

I'm from Idaho. I came out here for school and one thing after another I'm still here. I can't complain though it's been good to us. Looking to semi-retire and go back home probably for good in the next five years. I'm back and forth alot. I have a ranch back there as well. Most of my family is in ranching. My wife flys and we are back there 3-5 times/month.

I'm definitely an outdoorsman. Love to hunt and fish. Rodeoing and showing horses is my other passion as well as ranching. I do like being in Iowa as the land is extremely fertile and you don't have to irrigate!!!!

 

[Docsknotinn]

Ever been to the NFR rodeo finals in vegas ? Its on my to do list as my wife loves Vegas. I like the PBR stuff myself. That takes more nerve than I'd ever have in a month of sundays. Ive always wanted to go to the Calgary stampede as well. In recent years I've become more of a tradionalist, collecting antique winchesters and hunting with antique SRC varients. A campfire a couple of beers with some good company is about as close to heaven as it gets for this ole boy. The nail ranch out side of Albany Tx now has Cowboy hunts on horseback and non scoped lever actions are part of the rules. Now the camp cooks there know how to put a dutch oven to work. I cant say I know squat about horses. I'd like to ride one some day. lol But other than a serarching for a set of antique saddle bags for my office I havent come very close to one of those in many years.

 

[cowboydoc]

No that's Ty Murray alright. Here's his webpage, http://www.tymurray.com/. Wish he was my brother. He's a really good person.

I never got into collecting alot. Too busy to sit down and study them. If you ever get any you want to sell or come across that you don't need let me know. I'd like to have a few more.

 

[Docsknotinn]

That guy sure looks like your brother ! Dont ever hesitate to let me know if you are after something specific Doc. I take in about a dozen a year and only keep one or two. Dave

 

[Mosey]

I recently sent an email to New Holland asking about their stand on Biodiesel and here is the answer I got:

The use of biodiesel blends meeting ASTM 6751 (see attached Appendix for more information on ASTM 6751) is approved for New Holland engines up to a B5 (5% blend ratio). Biodiesel fuel blends can be used in all CNH produced engines. Some problems with elastomers (o'rings, seals, etc.) may be experienced with older equipment though replacement service parts should remedy this situation.

However, please note that since biodiesel does not have long-term stability, it should not be left in engines that are stored for more than four months. Also, prior to storage, engines should be flushed by running for a minimum of 30 minutes with regular diesel fuel.

Since biodiesel fuel has a higher cloud point than conventional diesel fuels, its use during the winter months should be discouraged in favor of a blend of #1 and #2 conventional diesel fuels. Biodiesel fuels attract moisture and may contain higher content of water than conventional diesel fuels. It may be necessary to drain the fuel filter water trap more frequently when using biodiesel fuel.

Additionally, depending on fuel quality, it may be necessary to change the engine fuel filters more often when using biodiesel fuel. If biodiesel blends are spilled onto painted surfaces, they should be wiped up immediately or they can damage the painted surface.

On the plus side, biodiesel contains no sulfur or aromatics, and is an excellent lubricant. It has a higher cetane number and burns cleaner than diesel fuels and produces less particulate and smoke emissions. It mixes easily with conventional diesel fuels and does not separate once it is mixed. It is considered an environmentally friendly fuel because it is a renewable source of energy. Pure biodiesel fuel is biodegradable and non-toxic to animals and plant life.

New Holland is presently evaluating blends greater than B5 and will issue the results to certified New Holland Dealers via Service Bulletin once the results are available.

 

[cowboydoc]

Deere gives the same info. in their manual for the tractor.

 

[verned]

I'm having fits with my bio right now. We're having a very very cold winter here in NC...unlike anything in years. Several nights in the single digits and now a stretch of below 32 degrees for nearly 72 hours. My JD 5105 starts fine and idles OK but when it needs more fuel (to push snow, for instance), it dies. I added 5 gals of petro diesel on the advice of the biofolks and it didn't help at all. Will this fuel issue damage the injector pump? Any resolution other than springtime?

 

[newbury]

WOW! resurrecting an 11yr old thread!

I'm having fits with my bio right now. We're having a very very cold winter here in NC...unlike anything in years. Several nights in the single digits and now a stretch of below 32 degrees for nearly 72 hours. My JD 5105 starts fine and idles OK but when it needs more fuel (to push snow, for instance), it dies. I added 5 gals of petro diesel on the advice of the biofolks and it didn't help at all. Will this fuel issue damage the injector pump? Any resolution other than springtime?

What's the mix ratio?
I'm assuming you don't have "winter fuel". I doubt it would kill the pump. Talk to your local dealer, you migh want to mix in some kerosene or Diesel 911.

 

[verned]

Thanks for the response.

This is a 90% bio 10% petro mix plus the 5 gals of petro I added. It's considered their winter mix.

I'm nor familiar with Diesel 911...available in auto stores?

 

[verned]

Thanks for the response.

This is a 90% bio 10% petro mix plus the 5 gals of petro I added. It's considered their winter mix.

I'm nor familiar with Diesel 911...available in auto stores?