John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple

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I have a John Deere 955 with a 70A front end loader, 54" bucket and clamp on forks. I love the tractor and use it for everything. Now I would like to use it more effectively for cutting firewood. Does anyone have any information on a cost-effective way to add a grapple on it? I don't need a huge grapple just something descent.

From what I understand I need the following:

1. Diverter valve
2. Grapple assembly

I seen that green thumb and that looks interesting.
 
   / John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple #2  
I have a John Deere 955 with a 70A front end loader, 54" bucket and clamp on forks. I love the tractor and use it for everything. Now I would like to use it more effectively for cutting firewood. Does anyone have any information on a cost-effective way to add a grapple on it? I don't need a huge grapple just something descent.

From what I understand I need the following:

1. Diverter valve
2. Grapple assembly

I seen that green thumb and that looks interesting.

You can either add a thumb to your standard bucket (=bucket grapple) or get a true independent grapple. A true grapple is more flexible with brush and logs and digging etc but don't discount a bucket grapple as an inexpensive solution. Key would be to determine just what you want to use the grapple for and how much you want to spend for a more efficient one. A bucket grapple is roughly half as efficient as a true grapple but probably five or ten times as efficient as just the standard bucket with chains.

You will need to mount your grapple and I don't know if the JD955 comes with a quick attach mount or has the traditional JD pin mount. There are a few grapple manufacturers who make a JD specific mount and there are also QA adapters that can be purchased ($500 or so).

You might want to look at the Everything Attachments Compact Tractor Grapple. It is a modern well engineered design and made in North Carolina. It should do just about anything you would want to do with your loader.

A diverter valve is one of three options to run a grapple. Cheapest, if you have rear remotes, is just to use the rear remotes. I did that on my first tractor and was very happy with it. Costs only fittings and hose and a few zipties to set up and after measuring and procuring those items you can be grappling in about fifteen minutes. A diverter valve, which I have on my current tractor, is an intermediate solution. I obviously use one and it works but I'm not in love with it. Benefits are that it is a bit less $ than a third function valve and that you can feather the grapple jaw closing. Downside for me is that when I get busy I not infrequently hit the button at the wrong time and dump my grapple load. That is clearly not a major complaint but rather an annoyance. More important to me is that I don't see any particular advantage over the simple rear remote control (so long as the controller is easily reached like the stick shift in 4 on the floor). A third option is the electric over hydraulic (true third function). That will cost $600-900 and offers independent control of the grapple jaw via an on off switch. Benefit is that it is a separate control (compared to diverter) and downside is that you cannot feather the valve (on or off). My advice, if you already have a rear remote, is to simply use it. All the hoses and fittings can be repurposed later as part of a diverter or third function set up if you don't like the rear remote control. And, if you don't already have at least one (preferably at least 2) rear remotes then this is a good time to consider spending that budget on rear remotes that will have multiple uses beyond just grapple control.
 
   / John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple
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You can either add a thumb to your standard bucket (=bucket grapple) or get a true independent grapple. A true grapple is more flexible with brush and logs and digging etc but don't discount a bucket grapple as an inexpensive solution. Key would be to determine just what you want to use the grapple for and how much you want to spend for a more efficient one. A bucket grapple is roughly half as efficient as a true grapple but probably five or ten times as efficient as just the standard bucket with chains.

You will need to mount your grapple and I don't know if the JD955 comes with a quick attach mount or has the traditional JD pin mount. There are a few grapple manufacturers who make a JD specific mount and there are also QA adapters that can be purchased ($500 or so).

You might want to look at the Everything Attachments Compact Tractor Grapple. It is a modern well engineered design and made in North Carolina. It should do just about anything you would want to do with your loader.

A diverter valve is one of three options to run a grapple. Cheapest, if you have rear remotes, is just to use the rear remotes. I did that on my first tractor and was very happy with it. Costs only fittings and hose and a few zipties to set up and after measuring and procuring those items you can be grappling in about fifteen minutes. A diverter valve, which I have on my current tractor, is an intermediate solution. I obviously use one and it works but I'm not in love with it. Benefits are that it is a bit less $ than a third function valve and that you can feather the grapple jaw closing. Downside for me is that when I get busy I not infrequently hit the button at the wrong time and dump my grapple load. That is clearly not a major complaint but rather an annoyance. More important to me is that I don't see any particular advantage over the simple rear remote control (so long as the controller is easily reached like the stick shift in 4 on the floor). A third option is the electric over hydraulic (true third function). That will cost $600-900 and offers independent control of the grapple jaw via an on off switch. Benefit is that it is a separate control (compared to diverter) and downside is that you cannot feather the valve (on or off). My advice, if you already have a rear remote, is to simply use it. All the hoses and fittings can be repurposed later as part of a diverter or third function set up if you don't like the rear remote control. And, if you don't already have at least one (preferably at least 2) rear remotes then this is a good time to consider spending that budget on rear remotes that will have multiple uses beyond just grapple control.

Thank you so very much! I have been wanting rear a remote because I don't have one.
 
   / John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple
  • Thread Starter
#4  
Does anyone have the link handy for that power beyond installation on a 955?
 
   / John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple #5  
Not to pour a bunch of cold water on this idea of yours... but the 70A loader is only rated for 850 lbs lift. You're going to be limited to a 48" economy grapple, but, that could still be pretty handy for you. Don't get a SSQL adapter, as it'll just kill 150 lbs more loader lift capacity. Good luck.
 
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Not to pour a bunch of cold water on this idea of yours... but the 70A loader is only rated for 850 lbs lift. You're going to be limited to a 48" economy grapple, but, that could still be pretty handy for you. Don't get a SSQL adapter, as it'll just kill 150 lbs more loader lift capacity. Good luck.

Agree but then I believe that virtually all CUTs should have "economy" 48" grapples as that will handle nearly every task on any tractor from 20hp to 60hp. I do also agree that a pin on grapple (which I believe Everything Attachments makes for the JD in their compact grapple model) would be appropriate if you aren't planning to switch the grapple and bucket regularly. The other solution mentioned is to simply bolt or weld on a jaw to make a bucket grapple. Don't know if anyone makes a kit specifically for the JD955 but it shouldn't be hard to adapt one designed for the Kubota BX line or go get "The Thumb" which I think is still sold on eBay.
 
   / John Deere 955 with FEL..... I want to install a grapple #7  
Put a power beyond kit in it , It would have had to been added if your tractor has a Backhoe , It consisted of two O-ring boss 90 degree fittings an a set screw that goes in the trans axle, Then you can add more spools and do whatever you want
 
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#8  
Kevin M; That is exactly what I want to do. I need help to do it though!

Anyone know how to buy that set screw?
Where do I find these O-ring boss 90 degree fittings?

How do I control the remotes?
 
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The O-ring Boss fittings can be sourced from a hydraulic supply house, the set screw id have to remove to get the exact size and thread, I'd be easier though if I new what year that tractor was , the serial # decoded will tell me
 
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Search my thread on this I took a bunch of pictures when o did it
 

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