John Deere 4120 V.S. Kubota Grand L4060 w/ prices

[DocDiesel]

I decided to run some numbers. Assuming you plan on keeping your tractor for 30 years (which hopefully yours will last), you are paying less than a dollar a day more for a Deere a Kubota. For a tractor that YOU have admitted has better ergonomics, more features, and better engineering it seems like an extremely small price to pay. I know where I'll be in 30 years, and I know for sure that if I'm lucky enough to still be able to be tractoring, I won't have to worry about something as small as fumbling over a brake pedal on accident that can turn into a nasty spill. Sure if you plan on keeping your tractor for 30 days, it won't make much sense, but that's why they have rental companies. The price you pay for all the extra features of the premium brands is extremely minimal for those of us who use our tractors frequently and keep them for a long time.

I have also liked to see how hypocritical you are. You are nagging me for 'ducking' questions, but when arlen points out SIX out of many reasons that a Deere is superiorly designed and engineered you reply to only ONE of those reasons and cite that as the ONLY reason to spend an extra $9k on a much superior product. You are showing your true colors. I'm starting to believe you are understanding the price difference and why we choose the better, more economical in the long run product, but now you're just trying to protect your manhood on an inferior product.

 

[murphy1244]

I decided to run some numbers. Assuming you plan on keeping your tractor for 30 years (which hopefully yours will last), you are paying less than a dollar a day more for a Deere a Kubota. For a tractor that YOU have admitted has better ergonomics, more features, and better engineering it seems like an extremely small price to pay. I know where I'll be in 30 years, and I know for sure that if I'm lucky enough to still be able to be tractoring, I won't have to worry about something as small as fumbling over a brake pedal on accident that can turn into a nasty spill. Sure if you plan on keeping your tractor for 30 days, it won't make much sense, but that's why they have rental companies. The price you pay for all the extra features of the premium brands is extremely minimal for those of us who use our tractors frequently and keep them for a long time.

I have also liked to see how hypocritical you are. You are nagging me for 'ducking' questions, but when arlen points out SIX out of many reasons that a Deere is superiorly designed and engineered you reply to only ONE of those reasons and cite that as the ONLY reason to spend an extra $9k on a much superior product. You are showing your true colors. I'm starting to believe you are understanding the price difference and why we choose the better, more economical in the long run product, but now you're just trying to protect your manhood on an inferior product.

A dollar a day for 30 years?? This is got to be the Dumbest post ever!

 

[DocDiesel]

Yes, for those that don't understand math, money or time it would be. You wouldn't be able to understand it.

 

[DocDiesel]

All I can say is bravo, eagle. Hopefully that is enough, but likely he will take on one if those reasons and then pursue the fact that it is the only reason for the price difference

 

[murphy1244]

Yes, for those that don't understand math, money or time it would be. You wouldn't be able to understand it.

You sound like a insurance salesman.:laughing: Just a Dollar a day for 30 years!:laughing:

 

[Fordman1981]

All I can say is bravo, eagle. Hopefully that is enough, but likely he will take on one if those reasons and then pursue the fact that it is the only reason for the price difference

I agree great post eagle. I know a farmer that has a 4440 and a 4840 that he still uses regularly. Yes he has added newer and bigger tractors over the years. Such as his 8320R (I love running this tractor rated at 320 hp and it is under rated look up the specs on tractor data.) I wonder how many of the JD's are under rated this much? It's always nice to get more than they claim they are giving you anyway my point is the reason he continues to run JD's is that they serve him well and they truly are 2nd to none. Yes I love my Kubota and my New holland and think they are great tractors but would not say they are better than JD.

 

[GManBart]

Below is a list some of the higher grade components used on the John Deere 4x20 series tractors. Please feel free to pick them part. Hopefully some will find the same information for the Kubota tractors. I choose John Deere because I have a 4520. If LS does truly have just as good components, it would be nice to see what they are.

Wait, you list these as "higher grade components", but you don't know what the corresponding LS (or Kioti) components are? How do you know that all of the things listed are actually better if you don't know what the competition is using?

You do realize that the vast majority of that list is vague, and generic, right? Stuff like "Heavy-duty crankshaft provides more bearing surface area"...more bearing surface compared to what? Glow plugs? My LS has those too. Planetary drive...yep, got those too. The list goes on, and on. Again, once you can't compare basic core capabilities, and show some sort of clear superiority, it becomes smoke and mirrors. But our cylinder pistons are nitride coated! :laughing:

 

[GManBart]

I don't have a dog in the fight since I already bought a tractor, am confident it will suit my needs, and have no need to convince others to buy the same one I did (ahemBart).

You may not have seen it, but I've used the brand you bought as an example too. All along I've said I was using LS because I know them better, and it's easier to reference...nothing more. I've never said anybody should go buy an LS, or any other brand. R,

 

[Fordman1981]

Well since this thread is so derailed and I figured some of us are tractors fans of all brands some of you would like this picture

 

[DocDiesel]

Well since this thread is so derailed and I figured some of us are tractors fans of all brands some of you would like this picture

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Bart's LS can pull it twice as fast...