JD not dealing anymore?

[MF283]

There are still some big farms in the area, like everywhere else, a lot of bigger farms have been sold off into 10 acre or smaller lots.
There are still big tractors on the lots around here, more CUTS & SCUTS it seems these days to go with the dwindling big operations.
The last time i went to my dealer, i climbed up in a 9000 series, like being on top of the world(a tractor forum with no tractor icons thingies)

Ronnie

 

[bigtiller]

Click in the smiley face and then on 'more'. this one is in the first section.

:tractor:

 

[jenkinsph]

There are still some big farms in the area, like everywhere else, a lot of bigger farms have been sold off into 10 acre or smaller lots.
There are still big tractors on the lots around here, more CUTS & SCUTS it seems these days to go with the dwindling big operations.
The last time i went to my dealer, i climbed up in a 9000 series, like being on top of the world(a tractor forum with no tractor icons thingies)

Ronnie

Those 9000 series tractors are very nice, I just can't handle the payment book that goes with them.

 

[sixdogs]

Those 9000 series tractors are very nice, I just can't handle the payment book that goes with them.

When you get into the bigger grain farms of 3,000-5,000 acres or so, the numbers and machinery requirements are staggering. A couple million plus the land price or rent. On the plus side, they only own a few pieces of machinery. Tractor, tillage, planter, combine, truck, a couple grain buggies and trade every two years. Hire out spraying and fertilizer and some hire out hauling.

The equipment roll is a lot of biz for the dealer.

 

[SJay]

My job takes me to many locations in Michigan. When I was looking for a tractor I must have stopped at 20 dealers. Many of those dealers wouldn't even come outside and talk to me. Of those 20 stops only 3 offered to let me test drive a tractor - one being the JD dealer, who quoted me list price less rebates.

One day I was driving by our local Bobcat dealer I saw a Bobcat tractor sitting in their lot, I called and found out it was for sale, after seeing the tractor a CT225 I wasn't sure it would fit in my lean-to, the salesman said he would gladly drop it off for a weekend , I could use it and also see if it would fit in the lean-to. Well that tractor is till in my lean-to:thumbsup:. Nice thing is I have texted messaged the salesman and he will usually responds within a few hours if not minutes. Sadly, good dealers and salesman are hard to find - probably not unique to the tractor business either.

 

[ultrarunner]

The nearby plumbing contractor has a nice little Deere TLB...

I asked him about it and he said his uncle is a JD Dealer... said I was looking for something similar and asked for contact information at the time.

This is in Oakland CA and he went to Montana to pick up his tractor... told me he couldn't get pricing around here...

 

[MF283]

Those 9000 series tractors are very nice, I just can't handle the payment book that goes with them.

I couldn't afford to fill the fuel tank

 

[sixdogs]

I couldn't afford to fill the fuel tank

Not positive but I think the newest big tractors approach 400 gallons. Heck, I couldn't afford to top it off, let alone fill it.

 

[jenkinsph]

Not positive but I think the newest big tractors approach 400 gallons. Heck, I couldn't afford to top it off, let alone fill it.

To go from about a 6 quart to a 46 quart oil change would cost a lot too.

 

[MF283]

To go from about a 6 quart to a 46 quart oil change would cost a lot too.

I'll quit complaining about 9 qts. & 10 gallons of hydraulic:thumbsup:

 

[Catman8]

I live in California, can anyone explain why tractors here are $3,000 more for the same model as any other state? And none of the JD salesman will budge on price and they have no answer as to why they are $3,000 more.

Also, if a JD sits on a lot for two years with zero hours on it and you buy the tractor your two year 2,000 hour warranty is over, is that the stupidest thing you ever heard of. And I'm not talking about the six year powertrain warranty.

 

[moriboy]

I live in California, can anyone explain why tractors here are $3,000 more for the same model as any other state? And none of the JD salesman will budge on price and they have no answer as to why they are $3,000 more.

Also, if a JD sits on a lot for two years with zero hours on it and you buy the tractor your two year 2,000 mile warranty is over, is that the stupidest thing you ever heard of. And I'm not talking about the six year powertrain warranty.

Are you saying that the warranty starts once the dealer brings a tractor in? I don't think I've heard of anything like this....

 

[Milo]

I live in California, can anyone explain why tractors here are $3,000 more for the same model as any other state?...

From my experience everything is more expensive in California. I recall riding across Nevada and seeing a very busy plaza just before crossing into California with gasoline posted at 2.89 on a huge sign. I looked down at my gauge that showed almost 1/2 full and rode past. 75 miles later I stopped in California for gas and was surprised to see regular was $.50 more (17% increase) and when paying asked why so expensive? He laughed and said "you're in California that's why". The other items I purchased in California were more expensive also, basically restaurant prices, a motorcycle tire and especially the labor charged to change the tire which was $105 per hour (vs $75 here in WV at the time).
On a Toyota forum I notice many posting that they go out of state typically AZ or NV to buy their new vehicles because while sticker prices are the same, California dealers don't (can't?) afford to discount as much. Beautiful state but I'm guessing California taxes and regulations are a costly burden on business', and even individuals to a lesser extent, relative to most other states.

And a warranty period starting when the dealer receives a tractor, rather than when it's placed in service, seems very unusual. Heck if I were a dealer and that was the case I wouldn't inventory tractors other than a few demos then order them for customers that way they'd get a fresh tractor with a full term warranty.

 

[Catman8]

I would not have a problem supporting my local dealer if say they were $200 or $500 more than everyone else but $3000. more is insane, that's my Roto tiller. Maybe these companies think we are all movie stars out here.

That's how the warranty was explained to me, and if I wanted the full two year 2000 hour warranty I would have to pay $600. More for a new tractor shipped in, the salesman also said they could put up to 200 hours on a tractor renting it out and still sell it as a new tractor. I wonder if all manufacturers have the same policy.

 

[Milo]

....the salesman also said they could put up to 200 miles on a tractor renting it out and still sell it as a new tractor. I wonder if all manufacturers have the same policy.

Ah that may explain the warranty because the warranty would begin once they put a tractor in service as a rental.

 

[bigtiller]

I would not have a problem supporting my local dealer if say they were $200 or $500 more than everyone else but $3000. more is insane, that's my Roto tiller. Maybe these companies think we are all movie stars out here.

That's how the warranty was explained to me, and if I wanted the full two year 2000 mi warranty I would have to pay $600. More for a new tractor shipped in, the salesman also said they could put up to 200 miles on a tractor renting it out and still sell it as a new tractor. I wonder if all manufacturers have the same policy.

I think either the salesman was wrong or he did a very poor job of explaining things so you could understand. That is not the way the warranty works. The warranty begins at the date of sale.

You typed 200 miles, did you mean 200 hours instead? Either way, a reputable dealer would sell it as a demo unit and have it priced as such.

 

[KEYBEAR]

You typed 200 miles, did you mean 200 hours instead? Either way, a reputable dealer would sell it as a demo unit and have it priced as such.[/QUOTE]

You also typed 2000 miles I think yoy make things up ?

 

[bigtiller]

I would not have a problem supporting my local dealer if say they were $200 or $500 more than everyone else but $3000. more is insane, that's my Roto tiller. Maybe these companies think we are all movie stars out here.

That's how the warranty was explained to me, and if I wanted the full two year 2000 mi warranty I would have to pay $600. More for a new tractor shipped in, the salesman also said they could put up to 200 miles on a tractor renting it out and still sell it as a new tractor. I wonder if all manufacturers have the same policy.

You typed 200 miles, did you mean 200 hours instead? Either way, a reputable dealer would sell it as a demo unit and have it priced as such.

You also typed 2000 miles I think yoy make things up ?[/QUOTE]

I think you were referring to Catman8 rather than bigtiller?

 

[Catman8]

Ok guys I really messed that up, my girlfriend warned me about drinking and typing:drink: ok let's start over, JD has a two year 2,000 hour warranty on the complete tractor except tires and some other things and a six year warranty on their powertrain. I went to my local JD dealer and they had a 2016 2032R with zero hours on it. The salesman said the warranty started Feb 17 2016 and would end on Feb 17 2018. I have also looked at tractors on tractorhouse.com with low hours and they mention the tractor warranty is already ticking. The salesman said if I wanted the full two year warranty I would need to order a new tractor that would cost me $600 more. So if that was not true why would he say that. Sorry about the typo in the above threads.

 

[MF283]

I'd talk to a different salesman, never seen a warranty started just rolling off to a lot.

Ronnie