JD 5255 and CCM T-190 Drum mower review...

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hollowcd

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Thanks to all that have been following along in my purchasing of new equipment. I have recently attained a 2008 JD5525, and this is also my first year with the CCM drum mower. There has been a few of you that wanted some comparisons between the 5525 and my old JD 4040, and a few of you that have asked how the CCM has performed so I figured I would write a full review on both so here it goes...

2008 JD 5525:

Coming from the drivers seat of a 1979 JD 4040, the comparison between that and the new 5525 goes something like this, there is no comparison. How much things have evolved over the years of tractor building is amazing. The size to power ratio, ergonomics, and ease of use has increased tremendously. A few of the options on my 5525 include air ride seat, 24x24 reverser transmission, and E-hitch. Just having those 3 items made a HUGE difference between the old tractor and new. The air ride seat is comfortable as your recliner at home although I do recommend a seatback extension if you are a taller guy. The 24 x 24 reverser transmission in my opinion is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I was skeptical at first if it was worth the upgrade option and if I was asked that now I would pay double for it if needed. I use the heck out of that hi/low button, and paired with the CCM and round baler, that little button is worth its weight in gold. For row cropping it may not be as big of a deal, but I imagine that most buy this size tractor for the type of work I am doing including haying and eventually some loader work, etc. Compared to the old 4040 with the quadrange, really the only way to control ground speed in the 4040 was with the throttle, thus affecting your RPM's since there was a ton of room between gear ranges. With the 5525, rpm stays smooth as shifting and the hi/low button make speed changes a snap. The E-hitch is great, especially since I am hooking/unhooking the CCM drum mower quite a bit. Having the ability to not jump in and out of the cab is great, plus the folding out of the ccm is especially easy having the ability to control the exact height off of the ground from the rear of the tractor. Another point I should bring up is the Economy PTO option. We have actually been able to do most of our mowing with the CCM in economy PTO, and for sure all of our tedding in Economy. It sure is nice to not have the tractor engine screaming as you are driving all day, not to mention the fuel consumption. I will touch on the Economy pto in the CCM review below. All in all I LOVE this tractor. If I had to complain about one thing, the only thing that I can think of is the hydraulic noise inside the cab seems to be a little excessive when you are running the high PTO speed, something that I didnt have in the old 4040. It is probably due to pump location but it is bearable and not that big of a deal to me, every once in a while just a little annoying. As I said, that is really the only thing I can think of that I dont like, everything else has been great and I look forward to running this machine for many years to come.

CCM T-190 Drum Mower:

The purchase of this drum mower came from the constant headaches of the old New Holland 469 haybine, and the feeling that I was at the parts store more than I was in the field. I did alot of research and asked alot of questions and decided on the CCM due to the field sizes we are baling, money, and rigidity. To say the least this was a great purchase. This mower waill absolutely put down anything that you throw in front of it. We bale alfalfa and orchard grass/fescue and it eats them both up. Blade changes are a snap, and although it looks like from our first experiences we will need to change them about every 50 acres per side of the blade, I think that they are only like $1.90 per blade and there is 6 of them so I think I can swing that. I will say that the hookup of the mower can be a little time consuming. I have the e-hitch and the extendable links on my tractor and I dont know what I would do without them. The hardest part is once you get it attached getting it to sit level and actually ride in the recommended float range. I have only hooked and unhooked a few times and I am getting better at it so I am sure there is a little learnning curve. Once you are hooked up things get pretty easy. To unfold you just suspend the mower just off the top of the ground and fold her back by hand(little heavy but not bad). Once you have her folded back just lock a couple of pins and hook up the pto and you are ready. When I fold the mower back to leave the field. I only unhook the pto from the tractor side and secore it with a tarp strap for transport which seems to work great. As for the mowing it does a great job. The only grass that it seems to leave in the field is from the first pass where you have to go in the opposite direction to open up the field, and the smashed grass from your tires the first time around doesnt want to pick up when you reverse directions. This is still minimal and we are leaving very little in the field. Depending on the thickness of the grass/alfalfa, Economy PTO and ground speed will vary a little. I was mowing alfalfa in economy pto at 7mph the other day, I could'nt remove the smile from my face. With the thicker grass, sometime the Economy pto will bog too much unless you are at a slow ground speed so in order to speed things up the standard pto power is needed to move quickly through the field. We found that the sweet spot of the majority was 4-5mph in econonomy pto but there was a couple that where too thick and needed the standard pto power to maintain the 5mph and above ground speed. Overall this is a great,simple, and fast piece of equipment. I did hit about a 6" log hiding in the grass the other day and it didnt do a thing, just heard a funny noise and backed away from it with no damage which was nice, this thing is built pretty well.

Any questions on either piece of equipment please let me know and I will do my best to answer. On the next round of cutting I will get some pics of the setup together. Overall I am very pleased with both purchases.

Thanks,
hollow
 
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How big is that mower?

I would never dream of running my Krone 10'6" disc mower in anything but full bore.

D.
 
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Mower takes a 75 inch cut. The economy pto actually does very well unless you are in some THICK grass. Very rarely does it drag down the engine.
 
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Mower takes a 75 inch cut. The economy pto actually does very well unless you are in some THICK grass. Very rarely does it drag down the engine.

OK

Well, mine is 126" so I could see the difference.

D.
 
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Yeah thats a lot of cutting width. Most of the fields we do are around 5 acres and non symmetrical and I can knock that down in about an hour with this mower which is pretty good. In some aspects I would have like a larger mower but in some I would have hated it, we need to get into some pretty tight spots.
 
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Yeah thats a lot of cutting width. Most of the fields we do are around 5 acres and non symmetrical and I can knock that down in about an hour with this mower which is pretty good. In some aspects I would have like a larger mower but in some I would have hated it, we need to get into some pretty tight spots.

As long as it works for you. The smallest one I am cutting is 35 acres - takes a while.

What kind of bale are you making?

D.
 
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Mostly just the 4x5 rounds and squares. Our hay balers are the next item for upgrade but that will be a while.
 
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Wow talk about dyslexic, I just noticed that I titled the thread 5255 instead of 5525....idiot
 
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Wow talk about dyslexic, I just noticed that I titled the thread 5255 instead of 5525....idiot

Nah... we'd be the idiots if we couldn't figure out what you're talking about...

Thanks for the review post. If I had another 30 acres of hay - a 5525 would be a fine, fine fit for our place.

AKfish
 
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Nah... we'd be the idiots if we couldn't figure out what you're talking about...

Thanks for the review post. If I had another 30 acres of hay - a 5525 would be a fine, fine fit for our place.

AKfish

I tell ya cutting 65 acres is already painful with the 10'6" mower. I could not imagine doing with it a 6' or something.

Also, the mower caddy I think sure smooths things out. Can use a smaller tractor with ease.

D.
 
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Hollowcd,
Or anyone familiar with the ccm drum mowers.I purchased a used t-190 drum mower a short while back from an individual.He gave me his owners manual and i cannot find in there about how to set the mower for mowing other than the statement to adjust the 3 point arms so it will be level when lifting the mower.The prior owner told me a few things but i don't have much confidence in what he told me as he had the wrong blades on the mower.He was using a humpback blade and the blade for a t-190 is a straight blade.I found a similiar drum mower of another brand and they said to run the mower with about a 1 inch gap at the top in the slot of your lift bar that the big spring rides in.Just curious what you were told.Appreciate any tips on how to set this thing up for mowing.
 
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Beef, the setup of the T-190 can be a head scratcher no doubt. My brother and I spent a couple of hours trying to make everything level, while at the same time having the spring pin ride in the middle of the slot as the manual suggests. Best that we could do is make the mower pickup level while having the spring pin float near the top of the slot. To try to make the pin float in the middle of the slot caused the mower to sit no where near level. Where we have it now makes us have the left 3 point arm to be adjusted low and the right 3 point arm adjusted high. The little bit of play that is in the 3 point hitch setups effects the level of the mower a ton so you have to set it up so that it is level when it is in mowing position and not really care about level when its in transport position. My new 5525 has about as many adjustments as you can get on a 3 point and it still sucked setting it up. What really sucks is unhooking which makes me lower the right 3 point arm, and rehooking which needs to be done on level ground and re-adjusting the right 3 point arm to get you back to level. I will say once you get it figured out and adjusted to your tractor it is a mowing machine, but it isnt always easy getting her ready. The blades are super cheap and easy to change, they only run $1.25 each. We mowed 75 acres with our first set before they needed changed. Any more questions let me know..
hollow
 
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Beef, the setup of the T-190 can be a head scratcher no doubt. My brother and I spent a couple of hours trying to make everything level, while at the same time having the spring pin ride in the middle of the slot as the manual suggests. Best that we could do is make the mower pickup level while having the spring pin float near the top of the slot. To try to make the pin float in the middle of the slot caused the mower to sit no where near level. Where we have it now makes us have the left 3 point arm to be adjusted low and the right 3 point arm adjusted high. The little bit of play that is in the 3 point hitch setups effects the level of the mower a ton so you have to set it up so that it is level when it is in mowing position and not really care about level when its in transport position. My new 5525 has about as many adjustments as you can get on a 3 point and it still sucked setting it up. What really sucks is unhooking which makes me lower the right 3 point arm, and rehooking which needs to be done on level ground and re-adjusting the right 3 point arm to get you back to level. I will say once you get it figured out and adjusted to your tractor it is a mowing machine, but it isnt always easy getting her ready. The blades are super cheap and easy to change, they only run $1.25 each. We mowed 75 acres with our first set before they needed changed. Any more questions let me know..
hollow

Buy a mower caddy.

D.
 
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Hollowcd,

Sorry i have been away from the computer for a few days.I appreciate your information very much on the setup for this mower.I have only used it once on a small field down the road from me for a fellow that does not have any hay equipment.It was a lot of overgrown mixed clover,vetch etc and you are right it is a mowing dude.I was fiddling with it most of the time never really knowing if i had everything set ok or not but it did the job.Last time i attempted this field with my old sickle mower it was a nightmare,stayed balled up most of the time.

Ddivinia,

I am not sure you could put one of these on a caddy like a regular disc mower.But you are right in that on a disc mower you are going to be hooking and unhooking very often the caddy would be worth it.
 

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