JD 4320 or NH 45DA choice

[cjtinkle]

I've read and read, and I think we've pretty much narrowed our tractor choice down to one of these 2.

I've yet to get a price quote back home from the JD dealer, we're parked in our RV in Russellville AR and I did stop for a quote here.

We had a NH45 D previously on our old farm before selling.

On the NH45D, I was quoted $26,790 (-$900 cash incentive) for Hydro, and the 250TL loader. Filled R4's

The JD quote was $26, 629 with the 400cx loader and 60" heavy duty bucket, eHydro, ihitch and rear SCV, filled R4's.

To my surprise, I rather liked the JD better. Any comparisons or opinions on the 2?

 

[wolc123]

Does that NH price include a quick attach bucket like is included standard on the JD? If not, the JD is the clear winner in almost all categories of performance and price.

 

[cjtinkle]

No, the NH didn't include a quick attach setup.

 

[wolc123]

I bought a JD 4120 powerreverser about 1.5 year ago. Test drove and considered the NH 40DA also. Found that they cost the same when the quick attach was added to the NH. The quick attach is a very important feature as it allows you to drop the bucket in seconds which gives you almost as good forward vision as removing the entire loader and leaves the tractor better ballasted to carry rear implements. The JD had the edge in most performance specs but the NH's lighter weight would be good if you use the tractor a lot on your lawn or must trailer it. No breakdowns or complaints after 150 hours use on the 4120. Somewhat difficult to change implements without I-match, but I leave a 6 ft rotary cutter on this tractor most of the time (have 5 other tractors), so this is not a big problem for me. The 4120 has never come close to running low on power on that rotary cutter and I bet that the 4320 would easily handle a 7 footer.

 

[MadDogDriver]

The JD4120 and the TC45DA are very similar. You're getting more muscle with the 4320. I'm assuming you've tried some seat time on both machines. If not, do so. It really surprised me when I was looking at Kubota's, JD's, and NH's. The Orange felt cramped and uncomfortable to me compared to the Green and Blue. Evaluate your dealers and their support carefully. My NH dealer's attitude and convience was a huge factor in my decision to get ol Blue. The JD dealer's arrogant attitude basically forced me to NH, and I have no regrets.

I'm surprised your TC45DA doesn't include the QA HD 72" bucket. As has already been mentioned, the compatability with any SkidSteer QA attachment would make your FEL super convenient.

 

[cjtinkle]

Seat time in the NH45 yes, we've owned one previously. No seat time in the JD, but I'm going to leave that part to my husband. While initially I'll put in a lot more tractor hours than he will, eventually he'll do most of the tractor work, and I want the choice to be his.

I didn't care for the Kubotas at all, so they're not in the running. I was surprised that the JD weighs less than the NH by a few hundred pounds. WOuld that be because of the turbo engine?

 

[HappyCPE]

CJ, I think you really want the 72" HD bucket, not the 60". The six foot dimension matches the front wheel width when they are set wide. Like you, I was surprised at the JD as I was set to buy a TC40. My JD dealer offered me my 4320 for the same price as the 4120 and the rest is history... I like my green tractor but the blue is a great choice too.

 

[cjtinkle]

I confess we're completely torn on a 5' bucket and brush hog (for more maneuverability versus the 6' bucket and brushog that we had before.

Totally different land this time around, mostly hilly and nearly all wooded. There'll be very little brushogging to do, tons of loader work as we plan to set up a market garden.

We haven't chosen a grapple yet. I thought perhaps something after market might be a better deal.

 

[MadDogDriver]

Another reason for a QA bucket. As you've probably seen on TBN, there are many grapple choices. Some are QA, pop the bucket off and put the grapple on, others, like mine are part of the bucket. I like the convience of using the grapple whenever I want (and I use it alot). http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/97412-new-6-function-grapple.html is a link to a thread about my grapple.

Many have found that their grapple has become one of the nicest attachments available. Depends on your needs of course.

 

[cjtinkle]

That's a pretty neat setup MadDog. My next thread is going to be "help me choose a grapple" LOL.

 

[Greyfields]

Here was what I paid for a 4120 on the West Coast (seemingly 20% higher than the rest of the country). I think the incrimental step from 4120 to 4320 shoudl be $1,800.

4120 $22,109
Open Station $0
eHydro $1,125
R4's $395
Dual Mid SCV $0
Third SCV $211
iMatch $244
Freight $1,521
Subtotal $25,604
Discount ($3,886)
Total $21,719

400X Loader $4,270
Mounting Frame $0
Hood Guard $0
73-inch Bucket $0
Bucket Level Indicator $41
Freight $392
Subtotal $4,704
Discout ($618)
Total $4,085

Total Tractor / Loader $25,560

 

[cjtinkle]

I just got a quote on the 4320 from the dealer back home, for even less.

4320 with open station standard seat, dual mid and single rear SVC, iMatch, filled R4's and eHdro, $21,350

400CX load with 73" heavy duty bucket $4200

$25,550! That seems like a great price.

$2000 for the MX5 brush hog
$2300 for the 72" Debris Grapple
$7,100 for the 458 hoe installed

 

[Z-Michigan]

Both nice tractors. IMHO the JD is a bit more rugged and has a few more nice features. I'm surprised that a 4320 is quoted for less than a TC45, but with that being the case I would definitely get the 4320.

 

[dynasim]

When I was looking last fall(in KS), the TC40DA with loader (I don't remember whether it was a supersteer model or not) was more than 2000 less than your quote(and that was without haggling at all). That was without the QA or remotes.

The tractor, by itself, was on the order of 19500.

Chris

 

[cjtinkle]

Thanks everyone for your help. We went with the JD 4320, 400cx loader, 12" auger, MX5 brush hog, 6' Debris grapple, and 6' Box Blade with the scarifying (sp?) teeth, and the 3 year extended warranty. Came in at just under $33k.

We'll be having it delivered around the end of the month when we go home.

Now, if I could just find insurance for it!

 

[Z-Michigan]

Congrats, sounds great.

I got my tractor insured through State Farm along with my house and cars. I don't think there was even any extra premium, I just needed to put it on the policy specifically. Only caveat was "non-commercial" use.

 

[cjtinkle]

Congrats, sounds great.

I got my tractor insured through State Farm along with my house and cars. I don't think there was even any extra premium, I just needed to put it on the policy specifically. Only caveat was "non-commercial" use.

We don't have homeowner's insurace, we fulltime in our RV. Obviously our RV coverage won't cover it. Our former homeowner policy company (Shelter) won't cover us as our previous New Hollad 45D was stolen.

 

[TCowner]

State Farm informed my about ten years ago that while the tractor would be covered under the homeowners policy for theft, rollover,etc. as long as it remained on my property. If it left the property for any reason it was no longer covered. I travel 1/4 mile to my mother's property in the winter to plow her drive way and was told I had no liablility or physical damage protection while I was on the road or plowing her driveway.

He also told me that the tractor was not covered while be trailered to the dealership for repairs/maintenance, etc. The only way the tractor could be covered off property was to write a separate policy that was about $900 at the time. I declined.

I switched insurance companies any found one that is extremely tractor friendly. They wrote a farm policy for me and while the basic home owners policy was about $50 more than State Farm I covered my $22,000 tractor and a host of attachments for less than $100 per year with a $250 deductable. The tractor and attachments were covered on and off the property.

 

[cjtinkle]

Yeah when we take delivery I'll have to check with the agencies in town, but I'm betting with the stolen one on our history we're going to have a tough time. It was a good thing our insurance covered ours away from the farm, as it was at the dealer's when it was stolen and they wouldn't cover it!