JD 4115 compact tractor pricing?!?!?!

[RG1]

Very COOL! Congrats!

As RG1 wrote, its a DI engine so no glow plugs, but there is a intake/grid heater (#14) that's active when the key is in the start position I think.

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AIR CLEANER
Cart key PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. REMARKS
1 M808310 Adapter 1
2 M807334 Indicator 1
3 M810109 Housing 1 (SUB AM881018)
4 M113621 Filter Element 1 PRIMARY, (SUB FOR M807332)
5 M123378 Filter Element 1 SECONDARY, (SUB FOR M807331)
6 M807333 Cover 1
7 RG60692 Valve 1 UNLOADER
8 ...... Indicator 1
9 AM881018 Air Cleaner 1
10 AM878832 Band 1
Cart key PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. REMARKS
11 M810307 Support 1
12 19M7897 Screw 4 M8 X 35
13 M805836 Gasket 1
14 M801118 Heater 1
15 TY22470 Clamp 2
16 M810110 Hose 1 LOWER
17 ...... Pipe 1
18 LVA800458 Pipe 1 AIR INTAKE
19 CH16875 Clamp

This is interesting. I never knew that heater block was there on my machine, but I just went and checked to see, and sure enough.. There is a wire running to it, so it may actually do something, but there is zero mention of it anywhere in any of my manuals, nor any of the sales brochures or Grounds Care catalogs that JD used to put out that I have from the time frame that the 4115 was in production. I'm not sure I understand what it does/how it operates, if anything at all. It certainly doesn't do anything to aid the cold starts that I have found so far. I have tried leaving my key in the on position for several seconds, turning it to the on position and holding it in like I did on my 4500 for several seconds etc., just to see if there was anything similar to the 4500 that my manual failed to mention. The only things to aid cold weather starting mentioned in the manual is to install the coolant or the block heater.

It seems that if holding the key to the start position with the pto knob on or the gear selector in gear would make it work, the manual should at least make some mention of the thing one way or another.

Next winter, I am going to try what you said and see if the thing starts any faster. Actually, the 4115 starts pretty well, but it runs like it is really cold for a while. The heater system on my 4500 made it run good almost immediately.

 

[kennyd]

Since there seems to be doubt about what I wrote, please see these two pages from the FSM. There is no mention in the OM, I don't know why...

 

[RG1]

It's not a matter of doubting you Kenny.

It's just that JD should have made mention of it in the OP's manual. I mean, if it went out and you weren't aware that it even existed, you wouldn't know to check it before paying a dealer to figure out what happened.

I can tell you this- it may work, but it is no replacement for the pre heater on the larger 4XXX machines. That one worked well, and you could keep it held in after the start to help smooth out the run a lot faster. When it is really cold, I have to crank the 4115 for 10 seconds or more sometimes, and it runs a bit rough until it starts heating up after about 30 seconds to one minute. I could smooth out the 4500 in a matter of seconds with its pre heater by simply holding it in a little longer.

 

[prosperity]

It's not a matter of doubting you Kenny.

It's just that JD should have made mention of it in the OP's manual. I mean, if it went out and you weren't aware that it even existed, you wouldn't know to check it before paying a dealer to figure out what happened.

I can tell you this- it may work, but it is no replacement for the pre heater on the larger 4XXX machines. That one worked well, and you could keep it held in after the start to help smooth out the run a lot faster. When it is really cold, I have to crank the 4115 for 10 seconds or more sometimes, and it runs a bit rough until it starts heating up after about 30 seconds to one minute. I could smooth out the 4500 in a matter of seconds with its pre heater by simply holding it in a little longer.

I can attest to the pre-heater working on my 2520. Not entirely sure if it is the same working on key start position only or key on position.

When I learned of the trick a few years back of pulling the PTO switch and holding the key to start, it really worked in 10F temps it fired right off. Actually, I didn't really like it all too much since I didn't like the idea of the engine starting so quickly in such cold temps. In my feeble obsessive mind, I kind of like the engine to make a couple turns before it fires to move the oil around a little bit before firing. With the PTO key trick, it was almost alarming how quickly it fired. That was with a 20 second hold on the switch.

 

[RG1]

Kenny-
I appreciate the heads up on this for sure. No like button or thanks button here though.

I'm definitely giving it a try this winter.:thumbsup:

 

[RG1]

I can attest to the pre-heater working on my 2520. Not entirely sure if it is the same working on key start position only or key on position.

When I learned of the trick a few years back of pulling the PTO switch and holding the key to start, it really worked in 10F temps it fired right off. Actually, I didn't really like it all too much since I didn't like the idea of the engine starting so quickly in such cold temps. In my feeble obsessive mind, I kind of like the engine to make a couple turns before it fires to move the oil around a little bit before firing. With the PTO key trick, it was almost alarming how quickly it fired. That was with a 20 second hold on the switch.

I can understand the wanting oil to get around the engine parts before too much time goes by, but I also want the oil to warm up and be easier on the oil pump even more. Six of one............:laughing:

 

[travisH3]

got all the fluids changed. fuel filter was disgusting, im not even sure how it ran like that. I know he was using a diesel tank at his farm to fill up so they must have pumped some nasty fuel. its about out of fuel anyways. the sediment bowl was dirty you could barely see in it. but I got it cleaned up and new filter in there and looks great. ran the tractor up the street and back to my uncles place and the filter still looks clean so atleast I know there still aint dirt in the tank still. also that hydraulic suction screen had a lot of shavings on it? im guessing thats normal and what the magnet is there for??? wish my x475 had a big magnet like that to help pick up the debris. My uncle is expanding his deck on his house and his jaw dropped when he seen my new post hole digger needless to say hes having me drill for his support piers in the ground this weekend! Ill post back on how my new deere does!

 

[kennyd]

Kenny-
I appreciate the heads up on this for sure. No like button or thanks button here though.

I'm definitely giving it a try this winter.:thumbsup:

Your welcome, I didn't mean to sound defensive, reading what I wrote now I can see how it came across that way :wink:

 

[kennyd]

Travis, shavings are pretty normal, especially if the was the first time the fluid was changed and/or it was cleaned. Was the fluid red by chance? If so it was probably the factory fill and never changed before.

 

[prosperity]

I'm not familiar with the 4115, but when you said you changed the fuel filter, are you sure there is only one? It sounds like you changed the filter in the sediment bowl/water separator. I know with my 2520 there is also a spin on filter on the side of the engine just before the injection pump.