JD 2210 with middle mower lift issues

[North Country]

I'm pretty sure if your wrists aren't too bad you can access it for removal by just removing the mowing deck. Removing the floorboards shouldn't be required. A six pack of beer and a bucket full of 4-letter words may prove useful.

 

[megotatractor]

with the deck lowered you shouldn't be able to turn the knob at all, but will turn freely when raised until it hits the lock stop.(though sometimes the stop can miss if the lift is lifted tight to the upstop) Something must be wrong underneath with the cam mechanism.

 

[megotatractor]

I'm pretty sure if your wrists aren't too bad you can access it for removal by just removing the mowing deck. Removing the floorboards shouldn't be required. A six pack of beer and a bucket full of 4-letter words may prove useful.

I looked at removing the platform when I was having issues with the twin touch pedals mechanisms, not worth it. To remove the platform requires removing the rear fenders.

But yes, doesn't everything require at least a bucket full of 4 letter words? LOL

 

[ovrszd]

with the deck lowered you shouldn't be able to turn the knob at all, but will turn freely when raised until it hits the lock stop.(though sometimes the stop can miss if the lift is lifted tight to the upstop) Something must be wrong underneath with the cam mechanism.

Yeah, that's how I saw it too. I used the manual to adjust mine so the numbers somewhat matched the cut height and when I did that the built in stop correctly prohibited turning the knob 360.

It's actually a pretty good mechanism that works great when properly lubricated and maintained.

A worn mechanism would indicate someone has man handled the knob, adjusting it with deck weight on it. If it's always adjusted with no deck weight there shouldn't be any wear on the cam at all.

 

[thatguy]

IF your knob will not turn 360 degrees all the way around - it means you can NOT utilize the 'lock' position to hold up the deck at its highest position.. That is ASSUMING that the cam (Part #5) under the tractor is still spinning when the knob is turned from up top.

Tractor off, mmm off, 3pt UP - climb under it and look at the cam set up.. you will see the 'ear' (the metal tab between parts #11 and #12) that hits the cam - when it doesn't turn freely this ear is actually hitting the cam at the 1st (highest mowing) setting.

By raising the MMM up a tad more (mine needed approx .25") you can utilize the lock position as it was designed (at the widest part of the cam).. I am not sure how you adjust a hydraulic lift

I have attached a pic of the lift mechanism for the mechanical lift - I am assuming the knob set up is the same though

 

[Thepan]

the picture is great, no time to get in there today , plus 96 on the thermometer. LOL on the beer idea, was a good thing to do today ...the beer thing that is.

i will dive into it tomorrow and let you know what I find

 

[ovrszd]

IF your knob will not turn 360 degrees all the way around - it means you can NOT utilize the 'lock' position to hold up the deck at its highest position.. That is ASSUMING that the cam (Part #5) under the tractor is still spinning when the knob is turned from up top.

Tractor off, mmm off, 3pt UP - climb under it and look at the cam set up.. you will see the 'ear' (the metal tab between parts #11 and #12) that hits the cam - when it doesn't turn freely this ear is actually hitting the cam at the 1st (highest mowing) setting.

By raising the MMM up a tad more (mine needed approx .25") you can utilize the lock position as it was designed (at the widest part of the cam).. I am not sure how you adjust a hydraulic lift

I have attached a pic of the lift mechanism for the mechanical lift - I am assuming the knob set up is the same though

Awww yes,, I see what you are saying. Hmmmmm.... I have my lift adjusted so that the tractor arms that attach to the deck are up against the metal stops on the tractor frame when lifted all the way. With that said, I still can't turn my knob around and around without hitting a stop. I took it that the highest setting tab on part #5 was a stop rather than an additional setting.

Would that mean that I have the vertical adjusters that attach to those arms adjusted to the wrong length?? I changed them in an attempt to make sense out of the numbers on the knob template.

I guess in the end it doesn't matter since I've got my tractor arms up against the frame stops, can't raise the deck any higher than that anyway can I??

Reason I'm asking is I sometimes do tractor work with the deck on and want it carried in the lock position as high as possible.

Thanks for attaching the drawing, that'll help the OP tremendously in understanding what's going on under there. Since he's saying it doesn't matter where he turns the knob his deck still drops to the ground when lowered I'm thinking when he turns the knob he is not turning the cam.

 

[North Country]

I guess in the end it doesn't matter since I've got my tractor arms up against the frame stops, can't raise the deck any higher than that anyway can I??

There's "works as designed" and "works for me." If it works for you - it works for you. I wouldn't bother changing it. I only spent a lot of time under there the first time I mounted the arms & deck, and haven't been back under since. Since I didn't know what would work for me at the time, I aimed for "works as designed."

 

[thatguy]

There's "works as designed" and "works for me." If it works for you - it works for you. I wouldn't bother changing it. I only spent a lot of time under there the first time I mounted the arms & deck, and haven't been back under since. Since I didn't know what would work for me at the time, I aimed for "works as designed."

I have had my tractor for 4 yrs and until a few months ago I was at the 'works for me' point - then I decided to try and make it work correctly..

the 2320 maybe different than the 2305/2210 - in the front of the 62D MMM i have a piece of solid angle iron that runs across the deck - THAT is the upstop limiter for the 2320 - the limiter should be just a few MM's below the tractor frame when the the 3pt is fully lifted..

On a mechanical lift (i realize the OP has hydraulic) you can adjust the part #23/21 to shorten the rod and raise the deck.. I dont know about the lift arms though

Brian

 

[megotatractor]

adjust those hangars too short and you bend the push rod. A "little bit" tight lets the knob sometimes hop over the stop. hangers too long and it doesn't lift all the way up. I believe the owner's manual specs the exact length the push rod should be adjusted and the space the arms should be from the tractor frame when all the way up. Properly adjusted it works, but the numbers were never meant to correlate to anything.