It's Just a Scratch...

   / It's Just a Scratch... #21  
I hear you, Sig, but whenever the 'kid' gets busted he will blame everyone but himself anyway. Better to get him off the streets sooner before he "accidentally" injures or kills someone.

Tips can be anonymous.
You need to assume anything the 35 year old kid says is a lie until proven otherwise (he dug his own hole).

I do some work in Asheville (odd town which I won't go down that rabbit hole) but having lived in NC for over 20 years now, I find it hard to believe that with a NC drivers license with expired tags on Tennessee plates he's just let off with a warning more than one time. You have to EXPECT that anything that rolls out of this guys mouth is BS of some sort.

The one person I can talk to about anything is my wife. My general rule is if I'm going to do something that I can't tell my wife about, don't do it. The added caveat is this in on the OP's wife's side of the family, not his. If the OP calls it into LE, I would NOT tell the wife so she doesn't know anything about it. In todays electronic age, I don't think anything is anonymous anymore. Worst case, mail it in to the police department without a return address from a town far away from the town you actually live in.

I'm guessing we all have family like the OP's. Again, best course of action IMO is just to stay away from the drama. I also understand with some family members, that's easier said than done.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #22  
The one person I can talk to about anything is my wife. My general rule is if I'm going to do something that I can't tell my wife about, don't do it. The added caveat is this in on the OP's wife's side of the family, not his. If the OP calls it into LE, I would NOT tell the wife so she doesn't know anything about it. In todays electronic age, I don't think anything is anonymous anymore. Worst case, mail it in to the police department without a return address from a town far away from the town you actually live in.

Again, best course of action IMO is just to stay away from the drama. I also understand with some family members, that's easier said than done.
IMO, if you can’t trust your wife with the story, it’s not worth doing. No real good will come from reporting this person.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #23  
IMO, if you can’t trust your wife with the story, it’s not worth doing. No real good will come from reporting this person.
I don't see it as a question of trusting your wife, but keeping her out of the potential drama. Since it's "her" family, if she doesn't say anything about it due to not knowing, by common sense she's out of it.

Thing about families though... sometimes you can throw common sense out the window;)

I just don't see a good play by saying anything to LE about it. The OP is his uncle, and apparently the father knows about it. Up to the father to do or say something IMO family dysfunction or not.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #24  
Again, age 35... not a "kid". If you're not a man by age 35, I really don't think there's any hope left for you. What were you doing at that age?
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #25  
If you do anything, there could be a very good chance that somehow you will get the blame. He could be tolerated at the next reunion, but you might not be welcome within the family.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch...
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#26  
The rest of the story:

As verified by the ski owner, a check arrived for $5,000 yesterday.

I don't know what went on conversationally with the kid.... I'm still 100% convinced he would have pushed this under the rug if he could have (still being irresponsible) BUT, seems enough chatter was done within the family.... my wife went to her brother and wife (kids parents) who were not at this reunion, let them know what happened and said "you need to go parent your kid..."

Did they chime in? No clue (hope they did)

Either way, he either honorably took care of it or was pressured to take care of it BUT, he took care of it.


Weekend after it happened, I told my wifes cousin (owner of the ski) I'd help him drain the engine as it likely ingested water (it was totally submersed, floating upside down)

He thought he could just change the oil....I said nope, you really want to make sure there's no water in the cylinders before you do anything.

He pulled the plugs, touched the starter and WHOOSH, it shot water streams almost 10 feet in the air. He's got most of the water out but I don't think he can get it all out that way.

None the less... he's got the funds now so this is a salvage thing to see if he can maybe save the engine or something, otherwise, the saga is over.

Oh, and the kid who sent the $5,000 was retorting back that it's no big deal, after all he just put $100K down on a house.... which is interesting as he doesn't have a job, doubt he's filed any taxes yet is always flush with cash.

Who, me cynical that he's stopped dealing?
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #27  
The good news is no one got personally injured this time.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #29  
The rest of the story:

As verified by the ski owner, a check arrived for $5,000 yesterday.

I don't know what went on conversationally with the kid.... I'm still 100% convinced he would have pushed this under the rug if he could have (still being irresponsible) BUT, seems enough chatter was done within the family.... my wife went to her brother and wife (kids parents) who were not at this reunion, let them know what happened and said "you need to go parent your kid..."

Did they chime in? No clue (hope they did)

Either way, he either honorably took care of it or was pressured to take care of it BUT, he took care of it.


Weekend after it happened, I told my wifes cousin (owner of the ski) I'd help him drain the engine as it likely ingested water (it was totally submersed, floating upside down)

He thought he could just change the oil....I said nope, you really want to make sure there's no water in the cylinders before you do anything.

He pulled the plugs, touched the starter and WHOOSH, it shot water streams almost 10 feet in the air. He's got most of the water out but I don't think he can get it all out that way.

None the less... he's got the funds now so this is a salvage thing to see if he can maybe save the engine or something, otherwise, the saga is over.

Oh, and the kid who sent the $5,000 was retorting back that it's no big deal, after all he just put $100K down on a house.... which is interesting as he doesn't have a job, doubt he's filed any taxes yet is always flush with cash.

Who, me cynical that he's stopped dealing?

Sounds like the parents of the rotten kid gave him the $5K to send to the jet ski owner.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch...
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#30  
Sounds like the parents of the rotten kid gave him the $5K to send to the jet ski owner.

Not to belabor a thread that's withering.... but I don't believe this wouild be the case.

They lost 100% belongs in hurricain Katrina (New Orleans area) and bluntly, have never really recovered. Wife/Mother was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer so they've been battling that (I think it's now considered in remission)

They've got too many issues themselves to cover him like that. (at least that's my understanding)

<shrugs shoulders>

I'll never know 100% but I'm comfortable that the kid forked up....after all, what did it cost him? All he had to do was (likely) go out and make a couple of sales....
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #31  
Please don't take this the wrong way, but apparently your wife's nephew is bringing out the dysfunction in you as well.

You're best bet? Just stay away from it.

You can't pick family, but you can keep your distance, and when it comes to stupid family, that's one pig you really don't want to wrestle.

If the kid brought 30k in cash with him, he really isn't that smart driving with his tag / plate situation.

DO NOT call him in or report him, just keep your mouth shut and stay away from him. Sooner or later his actions will catch up to him and you really don't want to be a part of it IMO.
This is very good advice.
 
   / It's Just a Scratch... #32  
Sounds like the parents of the rotten kid gave him the $5K to send to the jet ski owner.
Somewhat off topic, but dealing with kids, parents and money...

My son has a friend who he used to work with when he worked at a grocery store (actually 3 friends, two who are brothers). One of these brothers comes from a middle upper class family who apparently has money, because the boy has a very nice sedan that his parents bought for him when he got his license. Apparently this one brother has also gotten into trouble and had at one point stolen his parents credit cards and racked up some big bills (which got him "grounded" for a couple of weeks) and also dabbles in drugs (clean cut looking kid though, doesn't look like probably cause if that makes sense, and nor should that really matter)

Well, apparently this boy had bald tires because his friends (including my boy) were telling him he HAD to get his tires changed because they were going completely bald (apparently one too many burnouts). Kid goes out driving in the rain on night, loses control of his car and hits the guardrail. Turns out they decide to total the car.

Kid has no vehical now (which his parents bought for him to begin with).

Week goes buy, and his mother "gives" him her 2 year old Tahoe as his driving vehicle now.

I'll give my son credit because he has no clue as to the common sense of this boys parents.

Don't get me wrong, I understand there is no perfect way to raise a kid. The honest truth is out of two boys of our own, one is the proverbial prodigal son, but he will never return to us due to drugs, yet we raised both our boys the same way trying to give them a foundation to grow on when they become adults (my son has even commented that he has a good relationship with this other boys brother because they have a lot in common pertaining to their brothers).

When our boys became eligle for driving, we did go out and buy a 2001 Honda accord as a "family car" (at what we thought was a great price for the mileage LOL) that our boys could learn to drive on. We're blessed as a family as my wife and I both work and we could afford it, but I try my best to raise our kids like my parents raised me and my wife like her parents, and that means you get them what they need, not what they always want. One core value is if you want something, you work for it and save. My one boy knew if he wanted a car, he'd have to buy it himself with his own money, and he did just that as he worked and saved for two years and bought his car at age 17.

As mentioned, although there is no perfect way to raise a child, one thing that boggles my wife and my brain is parents who reward their kids with bad behavior.

Needless to say, I could see some parents giving their kids 5k to fix a problem per the post at hand.

Sidenote, no matter how rotten your kids are, you will always love them. The hard part is loving them and being diciplined enough for you to hold them liable for their own actions. That means, sooner or later, you aren't going to bail them out due to some serious dumb actions that lead them to their own predicament.

Honestly, how my parents survived myself as a teen going into my early 20's, I have no clue.
 
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