Is this a 9n?

[Jarrett]

One of my coworkers brought some pics of his Dad's tractor that he'll be selling soon. They think it's a 9n. Can anyone verify that by looking at these pics? Also, any idea what brand the bush hog is? I realize that may be kind of difficult, with all the mods/repairs done to it.

 

[RobertN]

Did you get a serial number off the tractor? Engine casting number? That would help ID it. Also, YTmag.com has ID info for 9n/2n/8n.

 

[Nat]

Either a 2n, or a 9n. I don't think you can tell the difference without the SN.
Maybe soundguy will chime in here as he has one ,later, nat

 

[Farmwithjunk]

.....unless someone has swapped the steering wheel..... 9N had a 4-spoke wheel OR 3-spoke wheel with rubber-coated spokes. 2N had 3-spoke wheel with exposed metal spokes. (to reduce the volume of rubber used to coat the steering wheel during wartime production of the 2N [WW II])

It's a pre-1944 version at that. 1944 saw the radius rods change from "I-beam" to oval tube.

It's DEFINATELY NOT an 8N. Many differences.

So, from those "clues", 1942 to 1944 2N.

Serial # would positively confirm the year of production.

 

[gemini5362]

Farmwithjunk. didnt most of the 9n's also come with three speed transmissions and the 8n with 4 speeds ?

 

[atgreene]

The 9N & 2N are virtually identical. On the housing next to the starter or on the rear-end housing, if there is a #(not all had them), the last digit will be the year (2 for '42, 6 for '46 etc...).

The 9N went from serial # 1 -99047, the 2N went from 99047-258540.

We have a collection of 9's, 2's 1 8N and a 600, 800 and a 4000. I learned to drive on the one my family has had since '63.

I'm new here, so I'll refrain from posting a pic of ours running a shingle mill, but once I get settled in I'lll be sure to post some pics of our's.

Good luck.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Farmwithjunk. didnt most of the 9n's also come with three speed transmissions and the 8n with 4 speeds ?

Now ya went an done it! Asked me a question I don't know the answer to. The differences in the 9N/2N and the 8N are many. Most obvious is the front and rear wheels. My dad taught me the "quick look" difference in the steering wheels to spot the difference between 9N's and 2N's since they're just about identical. 8N's stand out like a sore thumb next the the 2 earlier models. Dad bought and sold dozens of N's. I was into "Fergies" myself.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Farmwithjunk. didnt most of the 9n's also come with three speed transmissions and the 8n with 4 speeds ?

Now ya went an done it! Asked me a question I don't know the answer to. The differences in the 9N/2N and the 8N are many. Most obvious is the front and rear wheels. My dad taught me the "quick look" difference in the steering wheels to spot the difference between 9N's and 2N's since they're just about identical otherwise. 8N's stand out like a sore thumb next the the 2 earlier models. Dad bought and sold dozens of N's. I was always into "Fergies" myself.

I've been looking through "FORD TRACTORS, N Series, Fordson, Ford and Ferguson, 1914-1954" by Robert Pripps and Andrew Morland. They list a few very subtle differences in the 9N and 2N, but none except the steering wheel differences are visable in the photos at the start of this thread. They do support the claim of different steering wheels by the way.

 

[Soundguy]

Farmwithjunk. didnt most of the 9n's also come with three speed transmissions and the 8n with 4 speeds ?

ALL 9n/2n had the 3spd( +R) tranny.. ALL 8n had the 4spd (+R) tranny.

As well as the large front hub FWJ pointed out.. the 9n/2n also had a large rear hub, stradle break pedals.. one on each side.. no position control handle under the seat.. just a draft control..

Later 9n and all 2n had the mechanical jiggle stick interlock starter button inthe ltranny housing... ( war time models with no electric had a plug.. )

Early models had a non presurized radiator with a big top tank.. alllater models had a 4psi system..

There are about 20-30 more 'small' differences.. but those are the bigger ones..


Soundguy

 

[Grrrr]

The 9N & 2N are virtually identical. On the housing next to the starter or on the rear-end housing, if there is a #(not all had them), the last digit will be the year (2 for '42, 6 for '46 etc...).

The 9N went from serial # 1 -99047, the 2N went from 99047-258540.

We have a collection of 9's, 2's 1 8N and a 600, 800 and a 4000. I learned to drive on the one my family has had since '63.

I'm new here, so I'll refrain from posting a pic of ours running a shingle mill, but once I get settled in I'lll be sure to post some pics of our's.

Good luck.

No, we want to see the pictures now

Just make sure you make it easy for us members to see on slow internet connections