Buying Advice Is there anything comparable to a Bobcat ToolCat (besides Power-Trac/Ventrac)

[ruffdog]

My 5610 toolcat had been used for one year at a school. I don't think they ever used the the 3pt on it. It looked like it was just driven around the campus. I have a bucket, grapple/bucket, and a 72" finish mower. For the rear I can run all my 3pt equipment. This thing runs circles around my TC33D tractor for field mowing. It rides way better, has a comfy cab, and is quiet. I did like the belly mower on the tractor better though for maneuvering. The toolcat's all wheel steering makes a huge difference getting around. With a plow on each end, I can plow snow 50% faster. So far so good.

 

[Xfaxman]

To me the toolcat is for paved roads. I cant imagine mowing an uneven pasture with it. Also the implements are hydraulic driven if you get the model with the bed (ie no 3 PT)...and expensive.

The PTO on the 5610 is also hydraulic driven. I had no problem Digging post holes in the clay here with an old 3pt post hole digger.

The 7' brush hog is hydraulic driven and does great on uneven ground:

The view from the seat in the air conditioned cab. So nice to have the brush hog out front:

Another advantage of 4 wheel steering is you can set the rear wheels to the desired angle and Crab steer away from or up to something:

I aso offset the rear and go straight with the brush hog offset to keep the cab farther from the trees at the edge of the pasture:

 

[MossRoad]

Holy %^$! I just looked at prices!

 

[MossRoad]

And they were for used machines, too....

https://www.tractorhouse.com/listin...e/list/manufacturer/bobcat/model/toolcat-5610

 

[ruffdog]

I had been looking for a while and I found a 2017 for $40k and they gave me 50% more for my trade-ins than I thought I would get. My wife said "go for it!" It is easier for her to drive too.

 

[groundcover]

https://www.toro.com/en/sports-fields-municipalities/outcross/outcross-9060
Looks interesting

 

[MossRoad]

I had been looking for a while and I found a 2017 for $40k and they gave me 50% more for my trade-ins than I thought I would get. My wife said "go for it!" It is easier for her to drive too.

I know the OP doesn't want to consider a Power Trac, but jeez, a PT1460 is $26,000 new. A new 5610 toolcat is pushing $50 grand!

That's a heck of a lot of money left over for attachments and beer.

The PT1460 lifts 2400# while the toolcat is rated at 1500#(if equipped with optional counterweight option). They have similar GPM and pressure on the standard hydraulics. The PT has 33% more ground clearance at 12" VS 9". The 3pt hitch is optional. The PTO is optional. The high flow hydraulics are optional. It brings the price to $50K.

I can't find the lift height for the 5610. The PT1460 is 8'.

Look, the two machines are apples and oranges. The toolcat looks really good. I'd like to be able to justify one in my garage. Moreso than a conventional tractor, that's for sure. Put an implement on the front and another on the back and you have two machines at your fingertips. But it's darn near the price of two machines, so there you go.

 

[ruffdog]

https://www.toro.com/en/sports-fields-municipalities/outcross/outcross-9060
Looks interesting

With loader and cab, it looks like it weighs 500lbs more than the toolcat. I see it has a 51HP mechanical PTO vs a 25HP hyd on the TC. The toro doesn't have HO hydraulics and other standard features like on the TC5610. I tried finding a price but couldn't.

http://www.turfproductscorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Outcross_Sell_Sheet_6-12-18.pdf

 

[ruffdog]

Sounds like we have to test drive!!!!!!!!!

 

[MossRoad]

With loader and cab, it looks like it weighs 500lbs more than the toolcat. I see it has a 51HP mechanical PTO vs a 25HP hyd on the TC. The toro doesn't have HO hydraulics and other standard features like on the TC5610. I tried finding a price but couldn't.

http://www.turfproductscorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Outcross_Sell_Sheet_6-12-18.pdf

I was under the impression that the HO hydraulics are an option on the toolcat, not standard.