I am by no means a Cybertruck fan, but i had always heard that the Pinto was not really as dangerous as we all heard and that it got a bad rap (as compared to the cars of it's day)
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Pinto gas tanks and Firestone 500 tires were always in the news.
The jist with the Pinto is a $5 added shield was axed by the bean counters.
As several had noted the distance to a service center is an issue for large chunks of the US. For Me it's 250 miles with the next closest at about 650 miles.just for fun I picked some towns in Eastern MT and got as high as 750 miles to a center.
I read some of the early comments on wrapping the vehicles- apparently you should not wrap un-painted/coated metal and it is leading to to severe pitting on the finish. Also it seems that crash testing has shown that having a rigid outer skin is helpful for vehicular survival but much worse for its occupants.
I read some of the early comments on wrapping the vehicles- apparently you should not wrap un-painted/coated metal and it is leading to to severe pitting on the finish. Also it seems that crash testing has shown that having a rigid outer skin is helpful for vehicular survival but much worse for its occupants.
I do remember that
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Though the Pinto was recalled and it undoubtedly caused numerous unnecessary deaths, a study published in 1990 by a professor at the UCLA School of Law found the Pinto was not any more dangerous than the subcompact cars of its time. An NHTSA study found the Pinto was responsible for 298 deaths per million cars in 1975, which was just 10 more than that Vega and less than the Toyota Corolla, Datsun 1200/210, and Beetle.
the earlier posting of the whistlin diesel video on the CT reminded me of the destruction vid's of the F250, Hilux and Gwagon. All of which leave you impressed at their moxy. If easily triggered by senseless harm to innocent and sometimes expensive machinery do not go to that channel.
I have wondered about the economics of the channel
I have wondered about the economics of the channel
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Dark Clouds Gather Over Tesla as Sales Plummet Worldwide
In Germany — the only European country with a Tesla plant — sales of the new EVs plummeted by nearly 60 percent, while France saw a 63 percent decrease compared to January 2024. In Norway, new Tesla registrations fell by 38 percent. Sweden, meanwhile, registered just 405 new Teslas for the month — a 44 percent plunge. (Sales in the United States are also falling, though less drastically.)
That's not to mention the spectacular collapse of Cybertuck sales — currently only available in the US and Canada — which fell by 22 percent from Q3 2024 to Q4 as the controversial EV's resale value hit the toilet.
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Still seeing brand new Teslas in the hospital parking lot… no trucks today, but 2 coworkers took delivery of Model 3 in the last week.
Several of my neighbors also drive Tesla and one works for Tesla but does not own one.
My sister in law was set to buy a Tesla and just came home with a new Honda.
When I asked she said no longer any desire to own anything Tesla and I said what changed… she replied she despises Musk.
Few would put it all on the line for a principal and I’m sure text books will have plenty to say for years to come regarding Musk.
I asked my sister in law to name the head of any car company in the world and she couldn’t… not even for the Honda just bought.
Several of my neighbors also drive Tesla and one works for Tesla but does not own one.
My sister in law was set to buy a Tesla and just came home with a new Honda.
When I asked she said no longer any desire to own anything Tesla and I said what changed… she replied she despises Musk.
Few would put it all on the line for a principal and I’m sure text books will have plenty to say for years to come regarding Musk.
I asked my sister in law to name the head of any car company in the world and she couldn’t… not even for the Honda just bought.
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Yea, I think Musk is more than the head of Tesla. He owns a sizable chunk and he is also the face of Tesla. I can't say the same about other CEO's. I can name Barra and Farley though.
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That was the era of thou-shall-not speak-ill-of-foreign-vehicles but was OK to bash American-made ones.
Always wondered how the Beetle escaped any criticism. Yeah, it was considered cool, but it had all/most of the handling/rollover issues of the Corvair, and its gas tank in front "protected" only by the spare tire. They were only available as a 2 door, and getting out of the back seat quickly in an emergency not easy.
Can't say as I blame her. While I have no interest in owning an EV, if I did there's not a snowball's chance it would be a Tesla for the same reason.
Other than Mary Barra at GM, I have no idea who the CEOs are of any other automaker. I'd imagine most of them are OK with that, and do their best to be non controversial if for no reason other than it alienates at least as many potential customers as it endears you. And Musk seems to be going out of his way to alienate the very people most likely to buy an EV. For a guy with such a high IQ he sure is clueless.
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The national average is 866 EV registrations per 100k people, but CA has nearly 4x the national average, so no wonder you're seeing a lot of them.
Pennsylvania is often referred to as, "Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in-between". I suspect the registrations per capita in my Philadelphia-adjacent county is quite a bit higher than the average across our state, and I am seeing a heck of a lot of Tesla's and CyberTrucks, but don't have that data to make any comparison.
