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[EddieWalker]

What do female fighter pilots have to do with quotas, reduced physical requirements, or the dumbing down of qualification requirements in order to hire "minorities?" Minorities as in not great big white guys.

Nothing, in my opinion.

I wan't trying to compare anything to anyone.

Sorry if you were offended.

Eddie

 

[Spiveyman]

So how is your Spanish these days. Better brush up.

Actually I took spanish in high school and in college and spent some time in Guatemala where I had to put it into use. I was almost fluent at one point, I could actually communicate with the janitors at work when they didn't understand what their boss was trying to get them to do. But the years have passed and illegals continue to come and I speak way less spanish these days on purpose.

To learn spanish all you have to do is sit down with the kids or Grandkids and watch all the kid's cartoon shows on TV now.

HA! How true. This past weekend my 3 yr old asked if she could watch TV while I was fixing lunch. After flipping from Dora, to Diego, to Carlos, I thought I was pretty safe with some "tool" cartoon, then they started speaking spanish. I got ticked off that ALL 4 cartoon channels on our Satelite had hispanic shows, so I tossed in a DVD - Bug's Life. What ever happened to the Road Runner, or Bugs Bunny. I guess Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fud didn't offer the kind of image we're supposed to set forth for kids these days, those gun nuts. Too bad.

This is the same with every field. In every case where the person is hired because of their race, *** or language, then you know you are not getting the best person for the job.

Though that statement is attached to a hornet's nest these days, I agree with it. I'll go ahead and censor the rest of my post to keep the mods from having to bother, but here's a couple of lines for everyone to read between:
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See, I didn't forget ole' smiley, lest anyone think me hostile.

 

[AlanB]

What do female fighter pilots have to do with quotas, reduced physical requirements, or the dumbing down of qualification requirements in order to hire "minorities?" Minorities as in not great big white guys.

Nothing, in my opinion.

One in the same in mine.

If we want to say that everyone is equal, and have a fair shot, then make everyone meet the same standard and get all those "discriminators" off the applications.

If you think Women meet the same standard as men in the military, think again.

 

[Soundguy]

I don't care what color race, religion.. whatever you are.. as i said before.. If I'm laying there hurt.. i want some big bruiser running over to help me.. white , black, red, green.. who cares.. Heck.. a 6'8 300# woman is fine.. as long as she can tote me out of the burning house.. or the wreckage of a car... whatever...

Soundguy

One in the same in mine.

If we want to say that everyone is equal, and have a fair shot, then make everyone meet the same standard and get all those "discriminators" off the applications.

If you think Women meet the same standard as men in the military, think again.

 

[riptides]

Going pack a few posts about English being hard to learn, I remembered I had this:

Subject: Can you pronounce the words correctly?

Hey TBN is family friendly, that means no brain teasers to actually make us think. That hurts you know.

I really stumbled through/threw your post.

-Mike Z.

 

[MossRoad]

I strongly believe that one of the biggest reasons for the amount of crime that we have in this country is because we don't have one test for becoming a police officer, and those who do the best on that test, get the job. When you hire less qualified people, that's what you get.

I think the biggest reasons for crime is the breakdown of the family and the lack of good parents as role models. I don't think the crime rate is in any part due to lack of police action or abilities.

 

[MossRoad]

I don't care what color race, religion.. whatever you are.. as i said before.. If I'm laying there hurt.. i want some big bruiser running over to help me.. white , black, red, green.. who cares.. Heck.. a 6'8 300# woman is fine.. as long as she can tote me out of the burning house.. or the wreckage of a car... whatever...

Soundguy

I agree with that to some extent... I'm an equal opportunity victim.

Help!!!

 

[EddieWalker]

I think the biggest reasons for crime is the breakdown of the family and the lack of good parents as role models. I don't think the crime rate is in any part due to lack of police action or abilities.

While I don't disagree with you, I'm not sure this is completly true either. I think people are generally the same all over and have been the same for a very long time. There has always been problem families, single parents and troubled teens. It goes back in history to the earliest times. I think we hear about it more today then ever before because of the media's ability to report on events as soon as they happen, but overall, I question wether it's any worse now then it's ever been.

I do see a huge difference in how people live and the level of crime all over the country. I'm sure there are also many reasons for this, but I think the level of law enforcement and what is done with the criminals more to do with it then anything else.

In areas where being a police officer is a dificult goal to achieve with very high standards, lots of compitition and the ability to only pic the best candidates, there seems to be very little crime. Repeat crimes don't happen very ofter before they are cought. In areas with a high demand for officers and they are selected by the color of thier skin, thier religion and their ***, crime is very high.

This is just my observation from watching the news, living in different parts of the country, traveling all over the country, and having a father in law who is a police chief.

Eddie

 

[Bird]

In areas where being a police officer is a dificult goal to achieve with very high standards, lots of compitition and the ability to only pic the best candidates, there seems to be very little crime.

Back in the '60s when I started on the Police Department (in 1964) and when I was the Department's first recruiting officer (1967), we hired 3% of the applicants. In other words, 97% of the applicants were rejected. Boy, has that changed!

However, there are many theories about the cause of crime, increase in crime, etc. There's everything from race, religion, family breakdown, mothers working outside the home, change in laws, population density, number of officers, quality of officers and/or their training, and the list goes on and on. There are many textbooks and college courses on the topic, so it's definitely too complex to explain in one forum. I'm convinced that there are many factors involved.

 

[Podunkadunk]

I've heard over and over again how women make better combat pilots on all the radio shows and in the news. A few years ago, a Professor did a study on this and found out that those claims were false. She learned that those being asked about the skills of women pilots were intentionally embelishing their skills due to orders from their superiors. Who ordered it and why was what the debate was about.Eddie

Hey Eddie.

Better combat pilots...hmmm, that's an extremely broad statement. Also, one professor's study vs. the United States Military's findings through both science and hands-on trial and error, just doesn't debunk the notion. Let's narrow it down a bit...

The only claim that the Air Force and Naval Aeronautical Institutes found to be true about the very broad phrase of "women being better combat pilots than men" is purely physiological.

Combat pilots don't need a lot of physical strength, as let's say a combat rescue swimmer would. Ground crews do all the work, pilots show up...kick the tires and light the fires per se.

Cockpits are extremely small and ergonomically clustered in fighters as everyone knows. "Generally", a woman's anatomy better fits this profile, "generally" shorter, smaller features, etc. Also in high "G" maneuvers, because a woman's body (and I say again, 'generally') is more compact, the loss of blood flow to the hard-drive is lessened and even more so with today's high-tech G suits. "Generally" it was found that a woman's tolerance to higher G induced stresses were greater than their taller, larger counterparts. Blood flow distance is shorter...

Does this mean that a short, thin, male fighterpilot has the same advantages...possibly.

Source of my information: Pensacola, FL., Naval Aeronautical Medical Institute (NAMI) lectures, 1989, while in training there.

Not totally disagreeing with your post Eddie, just re-focusing it a little. There are exceptions to every rule, but in 'general' because of the physiological factor only, it's true. The rest of the factors vary accordingly and are a crap shoot at best to quantify.


Boy am I ever guilty of helping keep this thread off-topic...



Podunk