is a ck20 enough?

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gray

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I have a 48HP tractor that my friend likes. He does not want the size or cost of a unit like mine so I told him I would look for some options he might use for his needs. I have read many postings about the Kioti brand and am convinced of the value so started looking at this brand for him. He would like to do the following with a tractor. Mow about an acre of great lawn. Move sand off his lawn form hard Lake Superior winds. Snow blow about 300 ft of gravel road with occational drifts of 4 ft.
I have got a price on a package of this type but am unsure if the tractor is enough for this? Also , I have read that Kioti is soon to introduce larger HST units soon that may suit his needs more?
 
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I will pass your number on to him. I will be seeing him in a few days.

When is Kioti going to have the ck25 or 30 available? He may want to spring for a bit larger tractor.

Thanks Ken.
 
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I do more than that, with the exception of snow, here in Florida with my CK20HST,FEL, BH,Boxblade, boompole and rotary mower. John
 
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gray,

Let me first say that I have a Kioti LB1914, and I love it. I think Kioti is a great value!

That said...I'm not sure the CK20 is a good choice. The reason is not because it's a bad tractor...but because it's so heavy. It'd be great for the snow and loader work, but it might leave huge ruts even with the floatation turfs. The other potential problem is mowing. If it's just an acre, there's probably a lot of obstacles...and handling those with a RFM isn't all that fun.

Considering the small list of duties, I might look at something lighter...and with the possibility of a MMM. (Kubota BX, Massey G2300, Cub Cadet 5000 series, etc.)

Again, don't take this as a knock against Kioti...just my opinion on applicability /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sam
 
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<font color="blue">The other potential problem is mowing. If it's just an acre, there's probably a lot of obstacles...and handling those with a RFM isn't all that fun.
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There is a MMM (mid mount mower) available for the CK20.

<font color="blue"> It'd be great for the snow and loader work, but it might leave huge ruts even with the floatation turfs. </font>

I have not heard that before. There are some CK20 owners with the MMM that visit here.....so when they check in, we'll see what their experiences have been.

Don
 
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Sam and Don.

The lawn he has is without obsticals. It has some slope on it. He is looking at a RFM because it is much easier to put on and remove.
I must ask if there are great restrictions if a MMM is kept on while doing other work? I would think there are.

Is a quick tach loader system a good thing on this small unit? It may take some loader lift away? Is it available?

Just hoping Kioti comes out with a a 25 or 30 hp HST soon. This purchase is going to happen some time in April or May.
We have snow on the ground till May and in some years June.
 
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The MMM does have a lot of brackets that take up some ground clearence. Personal i perfer the RFM over the MMM. Its easier to maintain, get on and off, and you dont have the mess of all the brackets. The MMM will only cut down to 2.5 inches, the RFM will go much much lower.

The loader for the CK20 is a quick attach loader. It is a very nice loader. All of kiotis loaders are quick attach style loaders that are easy to get on and off.
 
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<font color="blue"> I must ask if there are great restrictions if a MMM is kept on while doing other work? I would think there are.
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Depending on the ground your working on. It does decrease your ground clearence.....so.....if your out in the woods on uneven terrian you can get hung up. On level lawn area not much of an issue.

<font color="blue">Is a quick tach loader system a good thing on this small unit? It may take some loader lift away? Is it available?
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Are you meaning a quick tach BUCKET? I have not seen them in use on a CK20. I have seen them in use on tractors the size of the CK25/CK30.

<font color="blue">We have snow on the ground till May and in some years June. </font>

Michigan's Upper Peninsula?

Don
 
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Not knowing much about Kioti's--I have a question.

Is the MMM easily and quickly installed/removed?

Bob
 
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Its some what easy, not anywhere near as easy as the RFM. If the tractor has a loader I use the loader to lift the front off the ground to gain more room. The hardest part is getting the PTO shaft on and off. you have to pretty much lay on the ground and bend way down. You need a good flat surface to roll the MMM sideways out form the tractor. You can turn the gauge wheels so it will roll sideways. There are 4 pins and the PTO shaft that have to be removed to get it out. I sure it gets easier the more you do it. But the RFM is easiest. Also there are alot of brackets and adujustments for the MMM to mess with down the road. The RFM just has 4 gauge wheels that you set and go.
 
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<font color="blue"> It'd be great for the snow and loader work, but it might leave huge ruts even with the floatation turfs. </font>

As someone with the heaviest CK20 HST TLB including my fat butt, my pics can attest no rutts with turf tires, I have R-4's ordered and expect no problems with them either.
 
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Thanks for the info on the CK20. I had not know the MMM would have that limit. This is important information.

The loader removal is an important issue on a lawn care tractor. I may recomend to my friend to buy the CK20? I still would like to look at the new CK25 or 30 this spring. Yes, I say I, as my friend can not tighten a nut so he has left it to me to sift through the options for him.

Thanks, dppratt.
 
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In my last post, I finished with something very akward. I meant to say Thank you DePratt and never scanned the message for it's flaw. As an electricity construction teacher my composition leaves much to be desired. I must take the time to use spell check?

On another issue, it is good for those dealers to share their knowledge with us. As a builder and teacher, I have often helped others in spite of the possiblity they may be in some way a competitor now or in the future but it has never hurt me. It is the right thing to do. If you have knowledge or experiences that may help others, it is best to share it. Idealistic? Sure, but it has never hurt me to do so. Once again , thanks to Mr. DePratt and others that share knowlege with us. Just keep it straight.
 

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