Interest Free Financing

/ Interest Free Financing #21  
In 2014 when I bought a Kubota 23 hp mower, I was offered free interest for five years, but I had to buy their insurance at 800 dollars per year times 5 years which would be 4000 dollars. I paid cash! My State Farm policy already covered it.
I too had to buy their insurance, but I don't think it was that much. It seems to me it was around $2500.00 for the 5 years. Shortly after I got my tractor, I had problems with the quick hitch and also discovered some scratches on my hood. The insurance put everything back like new and the bill was right at $7000.00 for what they did. That insurance is a good thing because what warranty doesn't cover, they pick up.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #22  
When I bought a Kubota a month or so ago I got a $3500 discount for cash instead of the 0% interest. It's hard to call a $3500 upcharge "zero interest". Car dealers are the opposite - they practically beg you to get a loan and offer $500 or more off it you finance.
Yes, they do because when they sell the loan they will make more off selling the loan than they make off the car/truck sale.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #23  
I bought a Kubota in 2009. I was quoted the same price for cash or 0% financing. The same for my RTV in 2013. When I bought my L3560 in 2018, it was 0% or a $700 rebate. As I was only planning to finance $14,000, I paid cash.
I see now that Kubota offers 0% or a hefty discount for cash.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #24  
Marketing gimmick. You still pay interest, it is rolled into your final price. Hence the cash discount if you don't go the 0% route, they subtract the interest from the final price. Usually 0% financing allows people who cannot make a large down payment or pay cash for something to buy on credit. But sometimes the cash discount is so small that 0% makes better financial sense. When I bought our Kubota RTV-X I had the option of $300 cash discount or 0% for 48 months. The $15,000 I would have paid for the cash discount makes me $600/yr in interest, so I opted for the 0% financing and left my money in the bank. I don't mind using other people's money if it makes me money.

Yeah that “interest free” label is almost always a bit misleading, because like you said if cash is 3500 cheaper then that cost is clearly being recovered somewhere in the financing deal, usually hidden in the base price or incentives that only apply one way. Dealers know most people look at monthly payments and not the total, so they shift the numbers around to make it feel like a better deal than it actually is. That is why I always compare the full picture, kind of like when you read into offers such as 20 euro no deposit bonus casino where it sounds like free value at first, but when you dig deeper you see there are still conditions, requirements and limits that define what you actually get in the end. Same principle here, nothing is really free, it is just structured differently. In your case the cash option is clearly the smarter move.
Yeah, I look at it the same way. If the cash discount is small, I’d rather take the 0% financing and keep my money working for me. In some cases you actually come out ahead that way, so it really just comes down to doing the math.
 
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/ Interest Free Financing #27  
My LS was the same price cash or 0% for 10 years. $250 for 10 years seems like a long time and maybe wasn't the right decision but I bet I've added over $50k to the value of the 22 acres in 9 months. In 30 years I probably won't remember.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #28  
My LS was the same price cash or 0% for 10 years. $250 for 10 years seems like a long time

WOW! 😲

I'd not want to be writing a check, or etf payment for 10 years ... I thought when they went to 8 years on cars it was crazy ...

Did you put anything down?

Guess either they really needed to sell tractors, or they were not willing to give a cash discount, and wanted the built in finance charge ... Anyway they could get it!

Not much in life is free ...
 
/ Interest Free Financing #29  
I'm kind of the opposite ... I'd rather not have the payment, I can save other money to "invest" ...

Debt free is a great feeling, which I enjoy!
Yep, me too, but...

I got about 10% off on a car I ordered last fall, because I financed it. The dealer knows my game and has no problem with it: I make the first payment high, then pay a little once a week or so, being careful not to pay the loan off before three months have passed.

In this case I saved about $4K and it cost me $143 in interest. The price I pay is that it doesn't feel like I bought a car since it's not mine yet. And once it's paid off that "bought-a-new-car" feeling isn't there anymore.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #30  
It's weird. We just bought a Honda and got a bunch off by financing. So we financed $10,000 and can pay it off whenever we want. We'll probably wait 6 months or so because the salesman said it looks better for him if we don't pay it immediately.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #31  
It's weird. We just bought a Honda and got a bunch off by financing. So we financed $10,000 and can pay it off whenever we want. We'll probably wait 6 months or so because the salesman said it looks better for him if we don't pay it immediately.
I doubt that it makes him look any better or worse, but if you pay the loan off earlier than the minimum time stated it does upset the applecart.

Then the lender will request the dealer's kickback to be returned, and most likely also whatever amount you saved.

I had that happen when having paid a loan down a bit too much and the lender decided to pay the loan off for me. They apparently realized that not collecting my $300 and change was a small price to pay for being able to demand several thousands back from the dealer and I.

I got my part of it straightened out somewhat quickly, but they hounded the dealer for over six months. I felt really bad about it even though it wasn't my fault, since I'm friends with the crew at that small dealership and they have treated me very well over the past 12 years. Which is why we keep buying mostly from them even though they're 450 miles away.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #32  
WOW! 😲

I'd not want to be writing a check, or etf payment for 10 years ... I thought when they went to 8 years on cars it was crazy ...

Did you put anything down?

Guess either they really needed to sell tractors, or they were not willing to give a cash discount, and wanted the built in finance charge ... Anyway they could get it!

Not much in life is free ...
Nothing down.. could of but chose not to. Have it auto drafted so don't have to anything just mark it off the checkbook. I'd say LS was trying to get some sales.
 
/ Interest Free Financing #33  
We don't buy anything unless we already have the money, but as others have said, you need to do some calculating to see what works best at the time. Our thought is that if we can afford to make payments we can also afford to put money aside. Round numbers: On a $30K loan, payments at 3% ($350) for 8 years is approx. $34K out of pocket. Depositing $350/mo at 3% for only 6-1/2 years is $30K in the bank and for 8 years is $38K. Lots of variables with terms and rates.

My L4240 was bought used from a small used equipment dealer with 977 hours on it at the end of 2018. I was happy with the $26K price. He didn't have the option of financing anyway so it was a cash deal. The initial plan was to sell the L3200 soon after buying the L4240, but there were things to do and it was handy having 3 tractors so it took another year to pry the L3200 from my orange fingers (think Daddy Bear, Momma Bear and Baby Bear with different implements on each).

Last new tractor was the L3200 in 2012. Short story is when the price dropped below $16K, it was time to buy a replacement for the B7500. It was going along as "no trade-in" because my plan was to sell the B7500 privately. The salesman remarked that he was impressed by the condition of my company truck and would like to see the B7500 before we finalized the deal. He made me an offer of a little less than my intended (starting) asking price. I couldn't resist. Running the numbers it worked out that IF I'd been able to sell the B7500 for my starting price it only cost $600 to have it all over with in one fell swoop. No doubt I'd have dropped the price at least $500 to sell it and then deal with tire kickers. Worked for me.
 
 
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