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   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #31  
I agree with this. Coyote Machine always gives me insight :) and getting opinions from others is why TBN is so terrific.

Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it.

I want the OP to consider gathering spec sheets from the various brands, diesel or gas, 4wd or 2. zero turn and other type mowers, especially since you live far from actual dealers. And search here for the recent spring threads about mower selection. There are some excellent discussions, as I mentioned earlier, that cover all the basics, and may give you further ideas toward your eventual solution. Also, commercial grade machines, like my Scag Wildcat can sometimes be bought used at very reasonable cost compared to new.
Mine had 200 hours, which is nothing for a commercial grade mower. I've only put about 150+ hours on since, one belt, one set of blades, a battery and a few oil/filter changes, etc. in around 5-6 years. Still looks and runs like new.

And the grass you mentioned at the height your said - 6+" tall, I believe, would give your 'old' mower some challenges. Having swivel front wheel spin out is not an unusual thing for any zero turn; it's not so much about lack of experience, it is about capabilities of the mower to handle slopes, wet grass, etc. The Ventracs and PowerTracs are specialty mowers designed to handle rough steep terrain. They are definitely worth looking into regardless of budgetary concerns, because they could save your butt, and if you value it, then the price paid is well worth it. On the other hand, if you go a different route and it is unsafe just because of design and cost considerations, that IMHO would be a bad decision in both short and long run.

You just described a scary situation where you had to do some very unsafe things and involved your wife in trying to save your butt. I'm sure neither of you wants a repeat of that scenario. If in a similar situation let the safety cut the engine. There is no winning with spinning blades, only loosing. First thing always cut power, pick up mower in pieces later if needed, not parts of yourself. Too close calls are a warning that something is not right. In your case it sounds like it's the mower and terrain, not the OP. You can always buy another mower or fix one. Safety is paramount.

I nearly lost my son to a horrendous crash this past fall. He was alone, lost control of his Toyota Tacoma, hit a tree and landed back in the road with the truck totalled and facing the opposite direction, with the tree on top of the truck. There was gas all over the place and he's lucky there was no fire.
He walked away, both air bags went off, the windshield was destroyed and his seat belt locked. At over 6'5" he's lucky as he:: he didn't hit the windshield, or have any real injuries. I could care less about the truck; what was important is that he survived and the truck saved his life.

The point is, life and limbs are most important. There's always another mower, choose safe over budgetary concerns if possible. I know it's not an easy choice, but it can be a very important one worth investing in the correct tool for the task at hand.:thumbsup:
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #32  
DewPo

The ZTR - 42 Remote controlled with wheels - not the tracks is $6.5k, the tracked version is $12k, Not sure if they are in your price range or not, but from a safety perspective you could not go wrong.

I have looked at these mowers before for an employer and we ended up going with the Spider Mini - it uses a 4WD system that frankly is unreal, and with the Mini the mowing time was severely reduced as the speed is high.
As for ease of operation - that employer's son (13 year old) was able to master the controller in about 10 minutes, and we had a 10 year old mowing the steep - dangerous stuff while walking alone the top of the ridge.
Yes these things are expensive, but having a single roll over accident, with injuries, a 1000lb or more mower rolling down the hill after you, and recovery time - what will that cost you.
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks
  • Thread Starter
#33  
Calg :

Our property is 'naturalized' but we need to keep the wild grass cut down 2-4 times a year (depending on the rain situation), for fire mitigation reasons. It's a real problem around here. We've been evacuated once for 3 days and have had a couple of other scares as well. It is definitely an adventure that I don't need or want anymore.

Coyote machine :

Thank You for your comments.

- I am doing exactly what you suggest and plan to look at used machines if the cost for new is above our comfort level.

- I am also in complete agreement about getting the right equipment for the right job in regards to safety and capability. Cost comes in last place. You can almost always find used equipment. Side note : In the situation I mentioned earlier, I stopped the spinning mower blades immediately and I was prepared to bail off the mower if it rolled. I was also prepared to fight a fire if it started a fire after rolling to the bottom of the slope.

Gafn :

- Thank You for the first hand information on the RC ZTR. They are on my research list as well now.

All comments are appreciated.

DEWFPO
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #34  
I am thinking I can probably get away with a 2WD with a locking differential.

I've taken too many 'barely' controlled slides down these slopes when there's dew on the grass and I've got the trans in 1st gear. All I can do it steer and hang on.

Been there, done that, won't do it again. 4WD/AWD makes a world of difference and is worth every cent, penny or ore, depending on your local currency.

Look at the Husqvarna Riders. The models are a bit limited in the NA market and some dealers seem uneducated about them, but the R322 should do most of what you ask excellently. I have 2 bigger models and would rather give up my tractor than the Riders. It goes where most machines wont, turns almost like a zero-turn, but can also be used for snow work or towing lighter loads. I bring mine to town in the winter and use a V-plow for clearing the drive and sidewalks. Does that great too.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/photos/339129-orange-new-black-our-3-a.html

Front riders like these have taken over the majority of the European market. Personally I can't understand why anyone would by an outdated type of tractor-style mower, but they still seem to dominate the NA market.

We started out with an MTD that came with the house and it was a full day job to mow the lawn. Then bought a 2WD Husqvarna rider, much more manouverable, but traction was still a problem on the steep slopes. Then came the AWD riders and what a difference!

There is a dedicated thread here for it:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/general-lawn-garden/250220-husqvarna-r322t-awd-mower-any-2.html

Br / Marcus
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #35  
I've done some research but am frustrated so I'd like recommendations from those of you who may have similar requirements.

Requirements :

>- Mowing deck no larger than 48", preferably 42" or less.
>- No striping left after mowing (uncut line between blades)
>- twin cylinder and at least 20 HP, gas or diesel. I'd prefer 24+ HP (I live at 7,100' elevation so I loose about 25% with altitude).
>- Locking differential (I need traction on slippery slopes), 4wd would be nice but I don't think I need it with a locker.
>- Tight turning radius (I have many obstacles to mow around on steep hills)
>- Comfortable Seat (I have a bad back and need all the support I can get)
>- Hydrostatic transmission (no more gear shifting for me)
>- Needs to be able to pull a small trailer (Max. 500 lbs). up and down rough slopes.

For right now let's not worry about price. I'll add that factor in after I see which model(s) best meets my needs.

My frustration : To get 4 wheel steer in a JD your at a 300 level tractor and about 5.5K, adding a locking differential takes you to a 500 level tractor and another 2K!

All recommendations and comments are appreciated.

DEWFPO


I have a Husqvarna R322T AWD with a Combi 103 mowing deck, and it was just what I needed to mow some steep slopes on my lawn.
It's hard to explain how well this machine can perform on sloped ground, so I've tried to find a video of the R322T mowing some slopes.
I didn't find a video of a R322T, but I did find this interesting video on YouTube of an articulating AWD mower being used on a steep slope.
The machine in the video is a Jonsered FR2216MA2 with a Combi 103 mowing deck which is almost the same exact machine as my Husqvarna R322T AWD.
Front and back transmissions are the same for both machines but the Husqvarna R322T's engine has a little more HP.

The video does a pretty good job in showing what the articulating AWD mower can do on slopes.

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMfAAoaLur0

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZQ3cbD0rPY

Edit 9:02AM
I have not towed a trailer or implement so I can't comment on the R322T towing ability.
You mentioned the ability to tow 500 pounds max up rough slopes, the R322T maybe to light in weight to tow that amount of weight up a rough slope.
The R322T weighs only 570 pounds without additional ballast.
Wheel weights are available, if additional ballast is required, just not sure if it would be enough.

For me the 570 pound weight of the R322T is an advantage.
Because it is light in weight and really agile, it's very easy on soft areas of lawn and extremely nimble around objects.
 
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   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks
  • Thread Starter
#36  
Thanks for all the info. I'm getting down to a very short list and will let you know what looks like it's going to work best for me.

SweBota & DHD :

Thanks for the links and your comments on the Husqvarna Articulating Mowers - they look like they may fit most all my criteria but am still checking out all the others as well.

DEWFPO
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #38  
The XJD 310 is the lowest end recommended . It has a medium duty K58 transaxle. All lower tractors use the light duty K46. The X500 series uses a HD transaxle , a K66 or heavier with diff lock. First order of business is to change the rear turf tires for ATV tires that actually have traction.
 
   / In need of serious Lawn Tractor recommendations based on specific needs?? Thanks #39  
As for HP required. A set of new blades with the square leading edge cut far better vs older sharpened blades with a rounded off leading edge.
 

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