If there are aliens, what will they look like?

[JasperFrank]

With all the talk of craters, I guess we are talking about meteors in a panspermia way: That life got here from somewhere else. This deflates the abiogenesis idea, in probability, as it spreads out the number of test tubes to more than one. Yet we still have to deal with abiogenesis. Kick the can down the alley..

The nut in that theory is that other solar systems, because they are so far away, don't have any means of transferring life to us. Anything, outside the sun's magnetosphere get irradiated in deep space. Space doesn't like life., cause its too complicated and too fragile.
There may have been life on Mars, that seeded the Earth. Or Earth may at one time may have seeded life on Mars. Yet it is still in this solar system. Very close stuff.
The next known solar system is 4 light years away.

 

[the old grind]

I'm stuck on two things. 1) That two of every specie that exists today rode in/on the same vessel for weeks with plenty of food (none eaten to extinction) and sanitary conditions onboard to do their business. 2) That all humans are descendants of Noah's immediate family of boat builders and/or distinct races either were created all at once or diverged in a handful of thousands of years. Both?

The math doesn't work for me. And I wonder how many kangaroos were on Noah's ark or whether those who wrote the holy books knew of the inhabitants of North America. Are Norsemen closer cousins to Maori than I thought when I sang in the choir and taught Sunday School in the '60s? btw, I'm taking notes.

 

[Cougsfan]

I am trying to imagine a tree with a root base of 100 miles..... Just how tall would that tree likely be? Perhaps if we had those trees today we could launch satellites by merely climbing a tree! And just how did those all those giant trees (that made all those craters) grow on the moon with next to no atmosphere? And where did they go? I certainly don't have those answers, but I am sure they exist.

By the way, I am still voting that aliens probably look like Leonard Nimoy. Pointed ears are a mandatory requirement of all aliens.

 

[Cougsfan]

The next known solar system is 4 light years away.

I think most of us in our minds grossly underestimate the size of our galaxy. But not nearly as much as we underestimate the size of the known universe. I can understand that, the vastness is somewhat unfathomable based against our usual standards of measurements.

 

[the old grind]

This book can help people understand the confusion of very large numbers and how one may gain perspective on many things.

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I suggest it for people who like to read, say from more than one book. IIRC numbers are numbers without science, unless they're also a 'religion'.

btw, as for a meteor not being able to strike a planet moving in orbit, how does a quarterback put a ball within reach of a receiver running a cross pattern? How does a skeet shooter place his shot pattern properly to bust a clay pigeon? These things seem to meet somehow with none necessarily moving on laser-straight paths.

 

[Jstpssng]

I BELIEVE that the "craters" are the evidence of large trees before the Biblical flood. If you could uproot a large tree what would be left?

Please tell me that you are joking. If there was enough water to flood mountains and uproot giant trees, the entire landscape was changed and the crater you expect would be filled in. Have you ever been in the forest and seen where a big tree uprooted just 40 years ago? It's already started to fill back in.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm stuck on two things. 1) That two of every specie that exists today rode in/on the same vessel for weeks with plenty of food (none eaten to extinction) and sanitary conditions onboard to do their business. 2) That all humans are descendants of Noah's immediate family of boat builders and/or distinct races either were created all at once or diverged in a handful of thousands of years. Both?

The math doesn't work for me. And I wonder how many kangaroos were on Noah's ark or whether those who wrote the holy books knew of the inhabitants of North America. Are Norsemen closer cousins to Maori than I thought when I sang in the choir and taught Sunday School in the '60s? btw, I'm taking notes.

And what about all the sea life???

 

[tradosaurus]

Please tell me that you are joking. If there was enough water to flood mountains and uproot giant trees, the entire landscape was changed and the crater you expect would be filled in. Have you ever been in the forest and seen where a big tree uprooted just 40 years ago? It's already started to fill back in.

Same logic would apply to any large hole in the ground. If you believe in meteors where is the big chunk of rock?

 

[tradosaurus]

"So you can't refute any of my assertions? What BELIEFs do you hold to?"


I can't or don't answer anyone who's making a lot of noise and when asked to show working, won't -- It's really just a little trick some people use, time wasting, shift topic, keep lips moving and people on new issues and ...

I'm right back where I finished off replying, waiting for you to um say something about physics and why you're not scared of it being an engineer ... if you want to talk about cat colours or whatever else I can probably find a tarot card reader near you who will only be too happy to chat about cats.

You won't refute my statements because it's uncomfortable. I understand. Been there.
Physics is the branch of science that deals with the structure of matter and how the fundamental constituents of the universe interact.
So using this definition how does a pressure system (atmosphere) exist next to a vacuum (space) without a barrier?

 

[tradosaurus]

This book can help people understand the confusion of very large numbers and how one may gain perspective on many things.

Amazon.com

I suggest it for people who like to read, say from more than one book. IIRC numbers are numbers without science, unless they're also a 'religion'.

btw, as for a meteor not being able to strike a planet moving in orbit, how does a quarterback put a ball within reach of a receiver running a cross pattern? How does a skeet shooter place his shot pattern properly to bust a clay pigeon? These things seem to meet somehow with none necessarily moving on laser-straight paths.

I never stated a "meteor" couldn't hit a planet rotating and moving. I just stated that it would be virtually impossible for almost every claimed meteor impact to be at a 90 degree angle. That's just simple logic.
By the way I'm only entertaining the word "planet", "solar system", "meteors" for the sake of this discussion.