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/ I need a shed. #21  
Looking good.
Like others said, 3-4-5 to get it close and measure diagonals to get it exact. Also, build the wall panels, square it by measuring diagonals, then sheathing to hold it, then stand it. Also, I like to space studs so a full sheet covers the outside of the corners, including the 1/2" overlap on the other wall. i.e., the building measurement is taken at the outside of the sheathing, not on the studs.
 
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In NY, is this a considered a permanent building subject to code and inspection?


Yes, but I don't think they really follow much of a code since most of the sheds are just terrible.
 
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Looks good, but I have to give you a little grief -- with such a nice flat floor to work on, you could have sheathed the walls before standing them up -- that way you can square them up with the sheathing and take advantage of easier handling/nailing of the sheathing with it horizontal on the floor. But that's my only nitpick, so get back to work! ;)

I did that on the first wall and then realized if I was doing this by myself that the walls were just too heavy. If I had a couple of extra hands I definitely would have preferred doing it that way.
 
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According to the International Building Code, which most counties and municipalities use for minimum local standards, anything over 200sq. ft. requires a building permit.

Your walls will not meet code for shear walls because your OSB does not go continuously from bottom to top plates. If you must join two pieces there must be horizontal blocking between studs at the seam.
Your bottom plate needs to be treated lumber, even though you have a foam barrier.
Trusses for permitted buildings need to be engineered and have proof tags attached.
Truss components need to be tied together with a mechanical means besides nails ie. nail plates.
Trusses need to be attached to the top plate with H1 hurricane ties or equivalent.
Not sure in NY but there should be two earthquake tie downs to double framing at each side of the door.

Those were just some things that stuck out when I looked at your pictures. I don't mean to be critical and bash you. I went into the business of building outdoor entertainment structures and ran into brick walls regarding some of the issues I just mentioned.
Dave
 
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According to the International Building Code, which most counties and municipalities use for minimum local standards, anything over 200sq. ft. requires a building permit.

Your walls will not meet code for shear walls because your OSB does not go continuously from bottom to top plates. If you must join two pieces there must be horizontal blocking between studs at the seam.
Your bottom plate needs to be treated lumber, even though you have a foam barrier.
Trusses for permitted buildings need to be engineered and have proof tags attached.
Truss components need to be tied together with a mechanical means besides nails ie. nail plates.
Trusses need to be attached to the top plate with H1 hurricane ties or equivalent.
Not sure in NY but there should be two earthquake tie downs to double framing at each side of the door.

Those were just some things that stuck out when I looked at your pictures. I don't mean to be critical and bash you. I went into the business of building outdoor entertainment structures and ran into brick walls regarding some of the issues I just mentioned.
Dave

Interesting list. I can tell you that with the possible exception of the treated lumber bottom plate, NONE of these are required for a permitted unoccupied structure in our area.
 
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Kevin,
You are lucky to not have the restrictions that I have encountered. I even have to pour 18" footings with double rebar.
Dave
 
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The weather didn't cooperate very well last week and I was away over the weekend so progress slowed down. My son and I did manage to complete most of the roof structure.

The weather is supposed to be better this week so hopefully I can get more done after work.

Kevin
 

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Well, I got some of the roof sheathing on yesterday after work. Working on a roof by yourself is rather time consuming.
 

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Things are going slower than I would like but I'm make slow progress. I've been working on the shed after work and there isn't much time before it is too dark to see what I'm doing. I'm hoping to finish the roof this week and hopefully work on the siding this weekend.

Kevin
 

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/ I need a shed. #31  
Looking good! I have pretty much convinced myself that projects take longer with wife/kids/job to deal with, so I break my projects into small chunks that I can do in 2-3 hour chunks. Takes forever to finish, but eventually gets done.
 
/ I need a shed. #33  
According to the International Building Code, which most counties and municipalities use for minimum local standards, anything over 200sq. ft. requires a building permit.

Your walls will not meet code for shear walls because your OSB does not go continuously from bottom to top plates. If you must join two pieces there must be horizontal blocking between studs at the seam.
Your bottom plate needs to be treated lumber, even though you have a foam barrier.
Trusses for permitted buildings need to be engineered and have proof tags attached.
Truss components need to be tied together with a mechanical means besides nails ie. nail plates.
Trusses need to be attached to the top plate with H1 hurricane ties or equivalent.
Not sure in NY but there should be two earthquake tie downs to double framing at each side of the door.

Those were just some things that stuck out when I looked at your pictures. I don't mean to be critical and bash you. I went into the business of building outdoor entertainment structures and ran into brick walls regarding some of the issues I just mentioned.
Dave

No permits or codes if you are outside city limits here in East Texas, but I still try to build to code if I don't have to. On the OSB, I've always used two sheets horizontally for walls over 8ft tall. My understanding is that they still provide the sheer strength needed and tie in the top and bottom plates with the studs. Then you just fill in the middle.

For a shed or small building that you can span the distance from the load bearing walls, why would you use a truss when rafters will work just as well? Do you need an engineered stamp for a rafter roof system? Nothing in his pictures indicate that he built trusses, or needed a truss for such a small span.

Treated wood for the sill plates on the exterior walls is always a good idea. Termites and moisture will destroy them. It's just a matter of time.

Eddie
 
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I just got a carolina carport installed for the money you cant beat what they are. You cant buy the material for what either just the carport costs or the enclosed garage/shed if thats what you want. Some dont like the look of metal buildings but i dont mind them..i think they look good? Not as nice as a stick built shed with details and paint or sideing but at 3-4x the cost??
 
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In my county, no permits required if building is <400 ft2. I'm thinking of building a 16X24 with 9 or 10' outside wall space before soffit height to make the main level 8.5 to 9' of clearance, then upper floor area large enough to stand up in and use as good storage area. I want to do this with a gambrel roof because I love the look. I've piddled and drawn this up several times, but haven't done it yet. Maybe in the next couple years....
 
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I like the
"one continuous backyard" look. See a lot of that in Alaska where they use planes like cars and need a landing and take off strip. If I had that much grass to cut, I'd tell myself to get a "gang" mower that cuts a 12' strip at a time. Looks like a real nice area to live and the shed came out A1.
 
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Nice progress so far. Working by yourself definitely takes some time but you are doing a nice quality job.
 
/ I need a shed. #38  
Nice work. All this talk about code requirements makes me think "It's just a shed!"
 
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In my county, no permits required if building is <400 ft2. I'm thinking of building a 16X24 with 9 or 10' outside wall space before soffit height to make the main level 8.5 to 9' of clearance, then upper floor area large enough to stand up in and use as good storage area. I want to do this with a gambrel roof because I love the look. I've piddled and drawn this up several times, but haven't done it yet. Maybe in the next couple years....

Sounds like the one I am starting on. Currently curing the trees to have milled. Hope dirt work starts this week. Same size same roof and want the extra storage.
 
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Your shed is coming along nicely and I can see it's a well thought out design and build....:thumbsup:
 

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