I miss the option of paying tolls in real time.

   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #61  
That is simply not true. There are whole sections of interstate highways around Chicago where there are tolls. No free lanes.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #62  
Having an interstate designation doesn't necessarily infer who paid for it.

94/294/94 from the Wisconsin line to the Indiana line was and still is funded by tollway bonds. 90 from Wisconsin to OHare was also ISTHA bond funded. Likewise for 355.

94 between the ends of 294 are state & federal funded.

My dad was one of the engineers over that project and was chief engineer for I-88. Staking out the alignments for 355 was one of my college jobs.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #63  
My question relates to an out of state toll bill. Can they enforce collection on non residents? I received a small toll bill from Texas last summer, misplaced it and forgot about it. I haven’t received another bill.
In Illinois I believe they will try but not sure how much time and effort they will put into collecting $10 in tolls.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #64  
In Oklahoma they have a crazy system where if you enter the toll road without a transponder you drive through a separate lane and get a ticket from an attendant and pay for the entire distance for the toll road. If you get off early you have to go through a separate lane and get a refund from the attendant for what portion of the highway you did not drive on or it's not worth it you just go through the fast lane and forfeit the refund.
Yeah, we found that out when one of our kids moved to OK. Paid a toll. Drove a bit. Got off to get something to eat, got a refund. Ate. Got back on the highway and paid again. Eventually we found 51 between Tulsa and Stillwater and started taking that to avoid some total. But it was a terrible road for 3 years. They repaired a good portion of it the last year we were traveling.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #65  
I think as a rule interstate highways don’t have tolls. Most toll roads look like interstate highways and often connect one to another. I think the difference is toll roads are built by someone other than the feds.
760 miles of I90 is tolled. ;)
175 miles of I80 is tolled.

In total, there's something like 3000 miles of interstate highways that are tolled.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #66  
760 miles of I90 is tolled. ;)
175 miles of I80 is tolled.

In total, there's something like 3000 miles of interstate highways that are tolled.
I remember when I lived in Ohio that I80 was tolled across the state. Of course that was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. I have no idea what the current state of affairs is.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #67  
I remember when I lived in Ohio that I80 was tolled across the state. Of course that was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. I have no idea what the current state of affairs is.
Quick update... No more dinosaurs.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #68  
I was in NY this spring for the first week of May. I set up an account for their plate readers but never could get back in.
In July I finally recieved a text that my bill was ready. I was unable to access my account even after creating a new one so finally had to call and fight with their computer until finally convincing it to let me talk to somebody. All told it was a waste of a couple of hours just to pay a $7.80 toll.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time.
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#69  
I was in NY this spring for the first week of May. I set up an account for their plate readers but never could get back in.
In July I finally recieved a text that my bill was ready. I was unable to access my account even after creating a new one so finally had to call and fight with their computer until finally convincing it to let me talk to somebody. All told it was a waste of a couple of hours just to pay a $7.80 toll.
When it works it’s fine…

When it doesn’t it falls on the customer to fight the fight or surrender.

Last week I was in Old Sacramento showing friends California.

Parked at a credit card meter and put in the max of 2 hours for lunch… lunch took longer and I was 12 minutes expired and made a run for it…

Several in my group were surprised… they said not worth being stressed over a possible parking ticket…

It’s thinking foreign to me but maybe they have a point?
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #70  
When it works it’s fine…

When it doesn’t it falls on the customer to fight the fight or surrender.

Last week I was in Old Sacramento showing friends California.

Parked at a credit card meter and put in the max of 2 hours for lunch… lunch took longer and I was 12 minutes expired and made a run for it…

Several in my group were surprised… they said not worth being stressed over a possible parking ticket…

It’s thinking foreign to me but maybe they have a point?
An hour and a half of my time is worth more than $7.60.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #71  
,,,

It’s thinking foreign to me but maybe they have a point?
It just shows you value a buck that you earned. You do that all your life and it gets hard to justify not taking care of it. ;)

I joke with my wife that we are at a point in our lives where we can afford the appetizer. 🙃
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #72  
Yeah, you can avoid the tolls from the Everett Tpk here by taking US 3, which parallels it.
3A is the road that directly parallels it.
Rt 3 is a mile east, and brings you through congested Hooksett, Pembrook, etc…
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #73  
In N.H. we have 2 toll roads...the Everett Turnpike which runs between Nashua & Concord, and the Spaulding Turnpike from Portsmouth to Dover. There are still a couple of cash lanes at the Hooksett tolls, though they're only open limited hours. Not sure on the Spaulding.
I miss the good ol’ coin baskets. You could toss change or tokens, that “saved” you a little bit. It was a good way to get rid of change. When I was going through daily, I got pretty good at getting the token toss to circle in the basket just right for the fastest acceptance, so I never had to come to a complete stop
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #74  
I discovered, quite by accident, on a trip north that our TX toll tags were valid on the KS turnpike. Saved some time and money with that.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time.
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#75  
An hour and a half of my time is worth more than $7.60.
That’s the divide… stand on principal or be pragmatic?

I think there is a place for both both but, pragmatic seems to be winning…
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #77  
That’s the divide… stand on principal or be pragmatic?

I think there is a place for both both but, pragmatic seems to be winning…
There is no "standing on principle." They have a system which wastes my time, but I still had to pay the toll.
The worst part is that it took so long to produce the invoice that I couldn't even pass the cost on to the client.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time.
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#78  
On a $39 purchase without satisfaction I launched a Consumer Product Safety Commission Investigation which resulted in product redesign.

Bait and switch advertising is another thing I stand on principal.

I’ve filed court cases with goverment agencies which settled rather than going to court…

Police in hot foot pursuit destroyed a section and gate of a yard fence… police said immune and that is what insurance is for… with a thousand deductible at the time it was all out of my pocket.

Served the city and city Attorney reached out to settle… funny how that works that it took a suit to get someone’s attention.
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #79  
i avoid tolls if possible, refuse to get a box for my car. Around me they making more and more toll roads from roads that used to not be toll roads, all to grab money. With variable time of day tolls, sometimes can be over $100......
 
   / I miss the option of paying tolls in real time. #80  
On a $39 purchase without satisfaction I launched a Consumer Product Safety Commission Investigation which resulted in product redesign.

Bait and switch advertising is another thing I stand on principal.

I’ve filed court cases with goverment agencies which settled rather than going to court…

Police in hot foot pursuit destroyed a section and gate of a yard fence… police said immune and that is what insurance is for… with a thousand deductible at the time it was all out of my pocket.

Served the city and city Attorney reached out to settle… funny how that works that it took a suit to get someone’s attention.
On two separate occasions, I've settled motor vehicle insurance claims with our government insurance, the day before going to court. Both times I was asked why I was bothering as it didn't seem to be worth the time for the money involved. Both times I told the adjuster it wasn't worth my time , it was the principal that mattered. Both times we then immediately settled for a reasonable amount.
 

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