Hydraulice Powered 3PT Adaptor

MossRoad · May 30, 2002

Gator Boy posted a link to a cool item over in the projects forum. It is a hydraulic powered adaptor for 3pt equipment. Check it out Click here for e-bay link

MChalkley · May 31, 2002

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.kascomfg.com/hitching.htm>Kasco Manufacturing</A> has manual and hydraulic adapters to mount three-point-hitch implements to a skid steer FEL mount. I've got the manual one for my EF-500, and it works great, as well as being very versatile and heavy duty. From the pictures, it appears to be better made and more versatile than the "Wide-Range" model. I don't know anything about pricing on the "Wide-Range" model, though - it may be considerably less expensive...

Anonymous Poster · May 31, 2002

I believe the Kasco hydraulic hitch you refer to is a hydraulic mounting and has no powered PTO. The Wide Range Adapter is a Hydraulic powered PTO and is selling currently for $750

MChalkley · May 31, 2002

wide range - The Wide Range Adapter is a Hydraulic powered PTO That certainly makes a difference - I had to fabricate a mount for a motor on my Kasco hitch to allow my EF-500 to use my tiller.

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

David:
The skid steer adapter could work, if we welded a PT plate to it, or I am sure one of our more creative types could weld up a similar gadget.
As I recall, one of the many adapters Mark Chalkley got for his EarthForce had three point connections, and he hunted around and bought a 640 RPM hydraulic motor with spline shaft. I don't know whether he's put them together. I think the hydraulic motor was marketed as PTO replacement.
It's certainly something to think about, since there are a lot of cheap 3 point implements, new and used, that might be adapted.

MossRoad · May 31, 2002

So how did you go about figuring out which motor to use, what brand was it, etc...?

MChalkley · May 31, 2002

MossRoad - Check out <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=custom&Number=83992&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=surplus%20center&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=50&Old=allposts&Main=77301>this link</A>.

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

Mark:
That'll teach me to post before reading the whole thread.
Next time I'll make sure you haven't already answered a question before I suggest someone ask you.

MChalkley · May 31, 2002

Charlie - Oh, that's ok. I thought you were just getting even with me for taking so long to find that valve for you... /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

MossRoad · May 31, 2002

Thanks!

I ordered a catalog, which will arrive in a few weeks.

From the specs that you listed for the motor that you bought, it looks like my little 8GPM won't deliver 540 RPM. However, I still want to look at their catalog. They might have some stuff for other projects that I am contemplating. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Spencer · May 31, 2002

Thats quite the link. I might have time to read the whole thread next winter.

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

"I thought you were just getting even with me for taking so long to find that valve for you... "
Nope. Actually, I used the hoe over the weekend and pushed the lever for curl in the correct direction almost 75% of the time. It's slower and clumsier than a joystick button, but it works. I've spent so much time mowing that I haven't had much for modifications, anyway. The growth this spring has been faster than I've ever seen. Clipping pastures is supposed to be every month, or so, not every week.
In connection with the mowing, however, I am working on a PT mounted string trimmer. Separate post.

MossRoad · May 31, 2002

Charlie,

The Aux PTO lever controls your curl on your hoe...correct?

How do you control the thumb?

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

The Aux PTO lever controls your curl on your hoe...correct?
How do you control the thumb?
Yes - aux pto controls the curl. The thumb is fixed - with a bracket bolted around the dipper boom. The bucket therefore curls back against the fixed thumb. It not only will pick up a log, as heavy as the lift hydraulics will handle, but also enables a biting action while digging that minimizes pull on the tractor.

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

Re: Hydraulic source

David:
Although I haven't seen exactly a PTO replacement motor, Bailey is also a source of a lot of hydraulic stuff. I have ordered a seat and a wheel or two from them over the years, so receive their catalog. Yesterday, I spent a fair amount of time on the phone, being advised about the right motor choice for my string trimmer. They have been very helpful despite my minimal orders.
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://baileynet.com>BAILEYNET</A>

MossRoad · May 31, 2002

Ahh, a fixed thumb. That makes sense.

I've seen Bailey's before, but never spent much time there. I'm sure I will over the next winter.

Thanks.

Charlie_Iliff · May 31, 2002

"The Wide Range Adapter is a Hydraulic powered PTO.

Wide Range:
I have a Power Trac 1845, with PTO maxima of 15 gpm and 3000 psi. Your system would require mounting a Power Trac quick-attach plate, either to your frame or to a modified frame. I looked at the website under construction and the eBay listing. Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember seeing the minimum necessary hydraulic flow and pressure to run the PTO motor.
I would appreciate some additional specs.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 2, 2002

Here are the motor specs for the motor I am using. It is rated up to 14 gpm. A flow control valve can be added for machines larger than that for about $20.
www.wide-range.us/gallery/pages/hydmotor[1]_jpg.htm

I have had inquires from Power Trac owners on if I could make this adapter fit one of their units. But no one has given me any specs on their mounting plates or pictures, so I dont know what it would involve.
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.wide-range.us/gallery/pages/hydmotor[1]_jpg.htm>hydraulic motor specs</A>

Anonymous Poster · Dec 21, 2002

Charlie

Did you ever follow up on the "Wide Range 3 point PTO adapter" for your 1845?

Please let me know

Richard

Charlie_Iliff · Dec 21, 2002

Did you ever follow up on the "Wide Range 3 point PTO adapter" for your 1845?

Richard:
It's among the many things on my list that I haven't touched. In almost a year with the PT, however, I've not had occasion to need the 3-point adapter, so it slides down the list.