Hydraulic dovetail trailer questions
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My ramps flip over and fold flat for deck space. I would drive both tractors all the way forward, flip the ramps, and then back things up into the proper position. From the pic it looks like there is plenty of room to do that.
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rustyshakelford
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If I had to make that work I would do what bdog said or remove the rear blade and put it in front of the kubota. Hydraulic dove would be perfect there though. My ramps have the support brace built onto them so they don't leave a flat deck. Really a pain but better than the other option of loading off an unsupportive trailer and torque the frame and rear axle.
I hope I can sell it for what I'm thinking!
Brett
I hope I can sell it for what I'm thinking!
Brett
Another concern I have on hydraulic doves is they are not rated to hold much weight once in the upright position going down the road. For example on a PJ 25 k rated trailer with a hydraulic dove the dovetail is only rated to hold 4k from the center of the dovetail forward. The dovetail goes pretty much all the way to the tires and is 10' long. If you have a heavy machine say over 10k you could very easily overload the dovetail with the rear tires of it. With a 4k limit from the midpoint of the dove forward you are pretty limited on what you can put on the last 10' of your trailer.
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rustyshakelford
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That's an excellent point. For what I want, I'm wanting the batwing to sit in that area. However, that might not work for everyone. Especially those that double stack machines. I'd like to put my tractors weight over the axles and maybe forward just a bit since the truck can take the weight and play with it until it rides smooth.
Brett
Fallon
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Similar issue with tilting deck trailers. The Big Tex 20' & 22' tilting deck trailers have a sticker on the back of the fenders saying not to transport any weight back behind the fenders. So thats a little under half of the 16' tilting deck. I'm assuming thats for ballance & tongue weight issues, if not also deck strength issues.
I'm looking at a 22' tilting deck (16' tilt + 6' fixed deck instead of the usual 4' fixed deck on a 20') so there will be plenty of usable deck space even with the unusable tail when under way.
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rustyshakelford
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Went and measured a tractor on the lot and loader (19') then we measured an mx15 from hitch to tires (also 19') had found a 36' Hyd dovetail/Hyd landing gear with 12k axles for around $15k. With 38' of tractor and shredder it would be to much for the 36' trailer if I left the loader flat on the deck like I had wanted. Looks like if I go with the 36' I'll have to rest the bucket on the neck and that'll get the shredder to the mid point on the dovetail. Still considering the 40' but man that's a lot of trailer!
Brett
Brett
A 40' is huge. In semi trailers they measure the distance from the rear to the front. On a gooseneck they just measure the deck. So a 40' gooseneck is roughly equivalent to a 48' semi trailer. I have a 53' step deck for my semi and a 32' gooseneck. The 53' is very hard to maneuver but the 32' I can put anywhere. A gooseneck much longer than that would be very cumbersome I think.
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rustyshakelford
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Not that 4' is huge but it's a 10% reduction. I'm still trying to figure out what to do. I have time still. If I get the 36', I'll probably have to back on to get it to ride right. I wish it wasn't such a headache to have a big truck and trailer and I'd go that route and drive a 3/4 ton. For the limited miles I drive it would last forever and never be needing more truck.
On a truck note, dealer said my truck is being built 12/16 so hopefully it'll be here around the first or second week of January
Brett
You will love your new truck. I only have 500 miles on mine but it is great. I was worried the 450 would ride rough but it doesn't. I always thought GM's rode nicer than Fords but this truck rides as smooth as my 16 Denali dually did. I towed around 24k (trailer and load) about 200 miles with it and it handled it with ease. I drove down a 1/4 mile long private drive heading to a job site pulling my 32' and came to a locked gate and had to back out. When trying to back on to main road I got off in the ditch a bit and ripped a mud flap off. Bummer. I think I will look into the duraflaps.
