docrocky
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As if all the tragedies of the Sandy Hurricane were not enough, now a cold snap is adding to the profound overall misery. Please bear with me on what may seem to be a bit lengthy.
For a number of years I have been concerned that the Terrorists who are constantly at work researching our (US & Canada) Achilles Heels to bring us down. Now in the summer months wild fires or disruption of electrical grids could create havoc but there are many back ups and alternatives. Many food chains, gasoline /oil supply chains could be disrupted and cause trouble but they could be temporarily withstood , such as not driving a few days or even a week, or going without a certain food for a while. But think of the natural gas we need to heat our homes. Since at present the main supply lines come from West to East and have to cross the Mississippi, those pipe lines are extremely vulnerable as I see it. Way back in the 70's I lived in Albuquerque. New Mexico which was struck with a unbelievable cold snap and a lot of the newly built housing developments had the feeder pipelines too small to keep up with the demand and this created 2 weeks of profound misery... Albuquerque. was not supposed to get that cold.
Now back to H. Sandy and the N.E. With all the wood and press wood debris could all that potential fuel be used to heat a small segment of a dwelling.? I am assuming most of these structures in the urban areas do not have fire places; wood or coal burning stoves; gas or oil furnaces which can be used without electrical power and as it gets cold they can become very miserable and dispirited.
I happen to live in medium sized city in NW Ohio. I have a gas furnace and a gas heater insert to my fire place. I can heat if the natural gas is not interrupted and my furnace will work if I supply electricity with my gas driven generator. But if the natural gas is cut off, what then, and this affects hundreds of thousands, say for instance in Mid January of Feb. Over the past few years, we have cut down thousands of ash trees because of the borer insect, imported from China. Tornadoes or wind storms have also knocked down countless oak, maple as well as other reasonable fire wood trees. I have cords of cut and split firewood piles but no where to use them other that my pole barn several miles from home. Most of the homes in our urban setting do not have proper chimney setups to burn either wood or coal.
Question: Is anyone familiar with a small furnace that could be quickly set up outside a dwelling and the heated air or water pipe sent to the home, with reasonable chimney? I looked into the outdoor furnaces on the market but they are too big for emergency usage and too costly for very infrequent usage. Or, if you set up a wood burner in the house, how much detail would be required to chimney out the smoke, say you had a 2 story house and didn't want to cut thru the roof? I guess this might sound a bit "survivalist" but I really think its time to stock up a a few very essential items, heat being one of them.
I have often wondered why a few hunters died in their campers from carbon monoxide or people in cabins where firewood would be more that plentiful but no small portable wood burning stoves available.
Any thoughts or suggestions????
Thank You and have a Good Wellbeing Day
For a number of years I have been concerned that the Terrorists who are constantly at work researching our (US & Canada) Achilles Heels to bring us down. Now in the summer months wild fires or disruption of electrical grids could create havoc but there are many back ups and alternatives. Many food chains, gasoline /oil supply chains could be disrupted and cause trouble but they could be temporarily withstood , such as not driving a few days or even a week, or going without a certain food for a while. But think of the natural gas we need to heat our homes. Since at present the main supply lines come from West to East and have to cross the Mississippi, those pipe lines are extremely vulnerable as I see it. Way back in the 70's I lived in Albuquerque. New Mexico which was struck with a unbelievable cold snap and a lot of the newly built housing developments had the feeder pipelines too small to keep up with the demand and this created 2 weeks of profound misery... Albuquerque. was not supposed to get that cold.
Now back to H. Sandy and the N.E. With all the wood and press wood debris could all that potential fuel be used to heat a small segment of a dwelling.? I am assuming most of these structures in the urban areas do not have fire places; wood or coal burning stoves; gas or oil furnaces which can be used without electrical power and as it gets cold they can become very miserable and dispirited.
I happen to live in medium sized city in NW Ohio. I have a gas furnace and a gas heater insert to my fire place. I can heat if the natural gas is not interrupted and my furnace will work if I supply electricity with my gas driven generator. But if the natural gas is cut off, what then, and this affects hundreds of thousands, say for instance in Mid January of Feb. Over the past few years, we have cut down thousands of ash trees because of the borer insect, imported from China. Tornadoes or wind storms have also knocked down countless oak, maple as well as other reasonable fire wood trees. I have cords of cut and split firewood piles but no where to use them other that my pole barn several miles from home. Most of the homes in our urban setting do not have proper chimney setups to burn either wood or coal.
Question: Is anyone familiar with a small furnace that could be quickly set up outside a dwelling and the heated air or water pipe sent to the home, with reasonable chimney? I looked into the outdoor furnaces on the market but they are too big for emergency usage and too costly for very infrequent usage. Or, if you set up a wood burner in the house, how much detail would be required to chimney out the smoke, say you had a 2 story house and didn't want to cut thru the roof? I guess this might sound a bit "survivalist" but I really think its time to stock up a a few very essential items, heat being one of them.
I have often wondered why a few hunters died in their campers from carbon monoxide or people in cabins where firewood would be more that plentiful but no small portable wood burning stoves available.
Any thoughts or suggestions????
Thank You and have a Good Wellbeing Day