HST or 12 speed SHUTTLE SHIFT

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R Barger

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YANMAR YM336D/W Loader JOHN DEERE 850/ W Loader 2WD&4WD Kubota RTV 900
Thinking about a new tractor. I currently bush hog about 4 acres with my Yanmar YM336d 4WD . I have also tried it with one of my John Deere 850 4WD and I prefer the Yanmar because of the power shift. So now I am trying to decide between a HST or geared shuttle shift. Anyone have an idea? Also I might say that some of my ground is fairly steep. I also have a Kubota RTV X900 which I use on the same ground and love it but I have never owned a HST tractor.
 
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Thinking about a new tractor. I currently bush hog about 4 acres with my Yanmar YM336d 4WD . I have also tried it with one of my John Deere 850 4WD and I prefer the Yanmar because of the power shift. So now I am trying to decide between a HST or geared shuttle shift. Anyone have an idea? Also I might say that some of my ground is fairly steep. I also have a Kubota RTV X900 which I use on the same ground and love it but I have never owned a HST tractor.
Personally, I would be geared shuttleshift. The reason being, it works on all terrains vs HST not so good on hills or slight slopes and HST with loaders you go really SLOW.
 
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This! The i-HMT transmission is class leading.

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So many choices, yet can only pick 1 tractor! :LOL:
 
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Keeping true to Yanmar's YM Series, the next YM generations does just that.

Its a Yanmar Red Apple with Tree Frog rims! A machine ready for rotary tilling and more. You loved your classic YM right, then look at the next generation in YM. And the wide YM mirrors keep with tradition too. No longer a Gray Market machine when its now here!

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Thinking about a new tractor. I currently bush hog about 4 acres with my Yanmar YM336d 4WD . I have also tried it with one of my John Deere 850 4WD and I prefer the Yanmar because of the power shift. So now I am trying to decide between a HST or geared shuttle shift. Anyone have an idea? Also I might say that some of my ground is fairly steep. I also have a Kubota RTV X900 which I use on the same ground and love it but I have never owned a HST tractor.

I mow around 10 acres of pasture. I started with a gear drive Mahindra 5010 and traded for a HST MX5800 Kubota and, in my opinion the HST makes mowing so much nicer. You have infinite travel speeds so you can go exactly as fast as comfortable depending on the ground and obstacles. The gear drive always seemed either a little too fast or a little too slow... or a little too slow in sections where the ground was smooth and then way too fast in the rough areas.

Now, if you have the money, then Yanmar's HMT looks like maybe the best of both worlds.

Aaron
 
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Personally, I would be geared shuttleshift. The reason being, it works on all terrains vs HST not so good on hills or slight slopes and HST with loaders you go really SLOW.
I'm confused. I agree with your reasons, but think they are all reasons to get an HST, and reasons to not get a shuttle shift.
 
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I mow around 10 acres of pasture. I started with a gear drive Mahindra 5010 and traded for a HST MX5800 Kubota and, in my opinion the HST makes mowing so much nicer. You have infinite travel speeds so you can go exactly as fast as comfortable depending on the ground and obstacles. The gear drive always seemed either a little too fast or a little too slow... or a little too slow in sections where the ground was smooth and then way too fast in the rough areas.

Now, if you have the money, then Yanmar's HMT looks like maybe the best of both worlds.

Aaron
This is exactly my experience with an HST vs fixed gears.
 
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When you look at any type of gear shift tractor, there are three areas to consider. When I was looking at tractors, I found it took a little digging to get past the brochure jargon and happy-thoughts to figure out what the tractor really had. And there are a LOT of different combinations.

1) Reverser. Most modern tractors have a "power reverser" which is a column mounted stalk that gives you F-N-R control without any clutching. No gear changes, just F-N-R in whatever gear you are in.

2) Gear shifting can be manual unsynchronized, manual synchronized, or power shift. Manual unsynchronized means you need to clutch, stop moving, shift, then start up again. Manual synchronized means you need to clutch, but you can shift without stopping. This is like a typical car manual transmission. Note that on some newer tractors you can operate the clutch with the peddal, or with a button on the shift lever. The button makes clutching and shifting really easy. You just hold the button down, shift, then release the button. The last is power shift where you can shift gears with no clutching, typically with a push button. The "up" button shifts up one gear at a time, and the "down" does the opposite. This is really nice if you have to do a lot of shifting.

3) Speed ranges can also be manual unsynchronized, manual synchronized, or power shift. It's all the same as above, but only when you need to change ranges, and that will depend on how many gears you have, and how you are running the tractor. The more gears you have the more speed range you have before you need to change range. So try using the tractor as you expect to see if you can mostly operate in a single range, or if you need to be changing range all the time. The more frequently you will change range, the fancier mechanism you will want. The ultimate is full power shift for both ranges and gears. You just keep pressing the button and the tractor will shift gears and ranges as needed.

I hope this helps with what questions to ask, what's possible, and what to expect. I found surprises in a number of tractors that I considered.
 

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