How far can LEO go?

[MossRoad]

I just cannot imagine why anyone would object to an officer checking the serial number on a piece of equipment on the road. That is, unless you stole it, of course.:laughing:

I think it implies a "You might be guilty, so I'm gonna check you out." kind of attitude.

I drive down the road all the time and look at folks in other cars and think to myself, nice, nice, not nice, nice, wonder what her mom looks like, yikes that's a scary dude, nice, nice, drug addict, nice, etc.... its human nature.

 

[polo1665]

I drive down the road all the time and look at folks in other cars and think to myself, nice, nice, not nice, nice, wonder what her mom looks like, yikes that's a scary dude, nice, nice, drug addict, nice, etc.... its human nature.

You should keep your eyes on the Road.........Moss.
:laughing::laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

You should keep your eyes on the Road.........Moss.
:laughing::laughing:

Gotta make eye contact with the perps, ahh, err, I mean public to make sure they can see me. Old motorcycle driving habit.

 

[Soundguy]

I think it implies a "You might be guilty, so I'm gonna check you out." kind of attitude.

I drive down the road all the time and look at folks in other cars and think to myself, nice, nice, not nice, nice, wonder what her mom looks like, yikes that's a scary dude, nice, nice, drug addict, nice, etc.... its human nature.

too funny.. but very true.

when I'm walking in a public place i'm always keeping mental tabs of the populace around me.. just basic 'threat' avoidance.. etc.

soundguy

 

[Bird]

I think it implies a "You might be guilty, so I'm gonna check you out." kind of attitude.

I drive down the road all the time and look at folks in other cars and think to myself, nice, nice, not nice, nice, wonder what her mom looks like, yikes that's a scary dude, nice, nice, drug addict, nice, etc.... its human nature.

But a person's appearance doesn't have the same effect as it used to. I'll never forget walking into the old original Cadillac dealership in Dallas one day wearing khaki slacks and sport shirt. I was clean and neatly shaved, etc. but just wasn't considered to be in the same class as their customers (or even their salemen who were all wearing suits and ties). So no one would even speak to me even though they were standing around doing nothing at the time. They turned and walked away if I walked toward one of them. I had stopped to inquire about a clean older Cadillac they had that I figured my Dad would be interested in. I finally cornered a salesman and told him I'd like to know what they were asking for that car and he replied, "It's not for sale; belongs to an employee" and turned and hurried off.

About a year later, I went to the service department of that dealership in my 6 year old Cadillac to get an estimate to repair some very slight damage to the grill. That day I was wearing a suit and tie and a service writer came running out, opened my car door, asked what they could do for me, asked if I'd like a cup of coffee while I waited, etc.:laughing: Then they wrote up an estimate for $360 when I already knew I could do it myself for $15 or have a local shop do the job for less than $100.:laughing:

But now a salesman who ignores even a dirty, scroungy looking individual is not a very bright salesman.

And as a police officer in a big city, you soon learn that appearances can be terribly deceiving.

 

[MossRoad]

But a person's appearance doesn't have the same effect as it used to. I'll never forget walking into the old original Cadillac dealership in Dallas one day wearing khaki slacks and sport shirt. I was clean and neatly shaved, etc. but just wasn't considered to be in the same class as their customers (or even their salemen who were all wearing suits and ties). So no one would even speak to me even though they were standing around doing nothing at the time. They turned and walked away if I walked toward one of them. I had stopped to inquire about a clean older Cadillac they had that I figured my Dad would be interested in. I finally cornered a salesman and told him I'd like to know what they were asking for that car and he replied, "It's not for sale; belongs to an employee" and turned and hurried off.

About a year later, I went to the service department of that dealership in my 6 year old Cadillac to get an estimate to repair some very slight damage to the grill. That day I was wearing a suit and tie and a service writer came running out, opened my car door, asked what they could do for me, asked if I'd like a cup of coffee while I waited, etc.:laughing: Then they wrote up an estimate for $360 when I already knew I could do it myself for $15 or have a local shop do the job for less than $100.:laughing:

But now a salesman who ignores even a dirty, scroungy looking individual is not a very bright salesman.

And as a police officer in a big city, you soon learn that appearances can be terribly deceiving.

Too true. My mom used to tell me about going into a local department store in jeans and a bandana on her hair after doing some hard painting work somewhere in town (she was an artist and art teacher) and asking to look at some jewelry in a display case. This was back in the 60s. The sales lady told her something like the jewelry in that case was very expensive and refused to take anything out of the case for her. Mom knew the manager.... the sales lady didn't work there any more after that.

Mom and dad were pretty good about instilling a don't judge a book by its cover mentality in us, but I know from personal experience, that try as I might, I still do it at first glance. :confused3:

 

[Skyco]

Bird your story reminds me of my dad, grew up farming, retired as a Marine with 21 years in, went to work at a Buick dealer as a salesman.
One day an older guy in overalls came in, and was ignored by all the salesman except my dad...
Dad wandered over to chat with the guy, probably from his past connection to farming. Imagine his suprise when the guy announced he wanted that Buick right there as he pointed at one of the highest priced ones in the showroom. Pulled out a wad of cash and paid full list for it, said he always wanted one and he was gonna get it before it was too late:laughing:

 

[Mace Canute]

Skyco, that's almost exactly what happened here in Saskatoon at a GM dealership back in the early 70s. A couple of old farmers wandered in and wanted to buy a new grain truck. They were brother and sister and word has it, it was real tough to tell which was which. Their clothes were as rough as they were too. Anyways, they talked to the manager and the price was agreed on but he very dubious about their ability to pay, so he asked what payment method they wanted. Apparently the look on his face when they went through their pockets and pulled out cash for the whole amount was priceless!

 

[JB4310]

too funny.. but very true.

when I'm walking in a public place i'm always keeping mental tabs of the populace around me.. just basic 'threat' avoidance.. etc.

soundguy

It's called profiling, it's human nature. When they say cops are not allowed to profile they mean they not supposed to pull people over because they match a certain profile of nerdowells.

But every one profiles, you can't help it.

A sad side note, related to LEO. We have had 3 cops commit suicide in the last month or so here in CT. Pretty sad statistic as they must be much more prone "eating their gun" than the general population.

One a few years ago did it in the police station of a surrounding town. they rushed him to the hospital with police escort and had the other town's police along the route block intersections. That to me was totally unfair IMO as they do not do that for anyone else, and this guy brought it on to himself by shooting himself in the head. He died anyway.

The cop who killed himself last week did it at headquarters as well ???


JB.

 

[Bird]

It's called profiling, it's human nature. When they say cops are not allowed to profile they mean they not supposed to pull people over because they match a certain profile of nerdowells.

But every one profiles, you can't help it.

And I think every police department, not just nationally, but world wide, taught their officers to profile.:laughing: But now that's a dirty word.:laughing: