Horse farm needs tractor

[tacticalturnip]

That's the only way they learn.

 

[Peter 315]

Sell a few horses to help get you the right size tractor.
If you can't afford a tractor I don't see how you can afford a horse farm.

Sad...

 

[Horsetime]

Sell a few horses to help get you the right size tractor.
If you can't afford a tractor I don't see how you can afford a horse farm.

Super helpful! Thanks!

 

[SwingOak]

I have a couple of Kioti tractors, and I think the DK50se HST I have is just about the perfect tractor for a horse farm. It's 50 HP, so probably a little bigger than required unless you're looking to make your own hay or your property is hilly. I use it for everything - dragging paddocks, pastures, and the arena, dumping muck tubs, rototilling, mowing, brush hogging, making hay, loading the manure spreader, snow removal, logging, you name it. I've experienced almost no problems with it, and I'd had it for almost 10 years now. it gets used almost every day.

And yes to HST, definitely. You'll use the loader more than anything and an HST transmission is ideal for that.

And also yes, if you finance with Kioti at 0%, you're basically going to pay the interest up front instead of getting a cash "discount", but it still works out to a pretty low rate. I did that with my RX7320 - 0% down and 0% interest for 6 years, and the APR worked out to about 2.5% which I was OK with. Seemed like a pretty cheap way to spread the cost out over a few years, and meanwhile I've invested most of the cash I would have spent on the tractor. So far my average annual return has been much, much greater than the cost of the "interest" on the loan.

 

[Torvy]

We do leave nearish a Mahindra dealership. They have the 1626 for $27,999 for 0 percent financing for 84 months 10% down.

That seems awfully high unless it is cabbed and/or has a backhoe. Mahindra website shows the base cost at right around 20k. Unless there are expensive upgrades, I would look elsewhere.

 

[Torvy]

Well, that's easy to answer. It would leave white Kioti (Bobcat) owners in the same boat along with owners of half a dozen other makes from companies who outsourced their manufacturing.

For that matter, on this thread we've heard mention that it is getting even getting harder to find parts for the rebranded Yanmars that JD sold. Two posters on this very thread have said that about their JD750s. A dandy tractor, but support has not lasted as long as the tractor.

Come to think of it, didn't Bobcat do this very thing before? Back about ten or fifteen years ago??

rScotty

I think the biggest difference is that Bobcat is a well established brand of its own and the shops work on similar equipment and engines. Many of the other rebranded stuff is companies that don't really have the capacity or expertise to service things. Another benefit is that unless Kioti itself stopped making parts for those models, you could still source parts for the Bobcat version. Around me, I would rather have the Bobcat as the dealership is better than any nearby Kioti one.

 

[arrow]

Many of the other rebranded stuff is companies that don't really have the capacity or expertise to service things.

I cannot speak with utmost authority of how rebranded equipment requirements, as it applies to the various dealerships, stays constant in execution.

In my knowledge base as it applies to the outdoor power equipment of the company I work for, you cannot carry a brand unless the dealership becomes certified in said product.
Certification requirements include the procuring, licensing and schooling of all tech involvement in the repair, servicing and manufacturer addendum notifications.
In Mahindra's case, our techs maintain an extensive knowledge base of tractors coming from all 3 manufacturing sites of india, (India) Japan (Mitsubishi) and S. Korea. (Tym)

This is soon to alter in structure as Mahindra moves into its own dedicated line with the 50/50 relationship they now have w Mitsubishi.
All subsequent Mahindra tractors (from sub compact to utility) will be comprised of this union and this union only.

If a Bob Cat dealer is taking on the rebranded Kioti line and if it works as Mahindra does, then all techs servicing Kioti/Bob Cat equipment, must be certified to work on such.
This is much like your local hardware store who happens to carry Stihl equipment, that store must have a certified repair tech on site in order to carry the line.

In the end, it all comes down to the quality/integrity/diligence efficacy of management, sales and maintenance staff.
It is that which above all else, constitutes a "good dealership".

 

[arrow]

That seems awfully high unless it is cabbed and/or has a backhoe. Mahindra website shows the base cost at right around 20k. Unless there are expensive upgrades, I would look elsewhere.

Could be the 84 month paper in itself as a backhoe now approaches 8K for the tractor.
I forget who the car dealership was, but his "0%" was coming to 9.69% interest rate in reality.

Also, that site could not be keeping up with price increases we seem to be getting on a weekly basis.

 

[arrow]

I have a couple of Kioti tractors, and I think the DK50se HST I have is just about the perfect tractor for a horse farm. It's 50 HP, so probably a little bigger than required unless you're looking to make your own hay or your property is hilly. I use it for everything - dragging paddocks, pastures, and the arena, dumping muck tubs, rototilling, mowing, brush hogging, making hay, loading the manure spreader, snow removal, logging, you name it. I've experienced almost no problems with it, and I'd had it for almost 10 years now. it gets used almost every day.

And yes to HST, definitely. You'll use the loader more than anything and an HST transmission is ideal for that.

And also yes, if you finance with Kioti at 0%, you're basically going to pay the interest up front instead of getting a cash "discount", but it still works out to a pretty low rate. I did that with my RX7320 - 0% down and 0% interest for 6 years, and the APR worked out to about 2.5% which I was OK with. Seemed like a pretty cheap way to spread the cost out over a few years, and meanwhile I've invested most of the cash I would have spent on the tractor. So far my average annual return has been much, much greater than the cost of the "interest" on the loan.

He has a 25K cap so unless.....

 

[SwingOak]

He has a 25K cap so unless.....

$25k cap for paying cash.

I opted to finance this time on the RX because the cost to finance was reasonable.

I financed my first Kioti (DK50se HST) because for a 6 year term the rate was reasonably low (2.4%) and at the time I needed the cash to pay for a underground storage tank remediation job on a house I owned back east (don't ask what that cost - you don't want to know, and I'd rather forget).

The cost for the tractor was the same at the time, cash or financed. I paid the tractor off 3 years early.