Honda Ridgeline Pickup anyone?

[crazyal]

Tires make all the difference. With anti-lock brakes it can be hard to tell what tires will work well and what ones will struggle. In snow and gravel you really want the tires to dig in, exactly what anti-locks try to avoid. The original tires on my Tundra sucked but when I replaced them with BFG All Terrain KOs it was like night and day. Now I just run good winter tires from Thanksgiving to the end of April.

What's worse than anti-lock brakes is traction control. Nothing like the car stopping on the brakes as you are trying to get your tires to dig through the snow. Often if the conditions are bad enough I just turn off the electronic nannies. I've driven for 30 years just fine without them.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Tires make all the difference. With anti-lock brakes it can be hard to tell what tires will work well and what ones will struggle. In snow and gravel you really want the tires to dig in, exactly what anti-locks try to avoid. The original tires on my Tundra sucked but when I replaced them with BFG All Terrain KOs it was like night and day. Now I just run good winter tires from Thanksgiving to the end of April.

What's worse than anti-lock brakes is traction control. Nothing like the car stopping on the brakes as you are trying to get your tires to dig through the snow. Often if the conditions are bad enough I just turn off the electronic nannies. I've driven for 30 years just fine without them.

I read Toyota 4WD design is the root of the traction control issue you are talking about leading some to just turn that feature off. Consumers Report cover this subject in compact SUV's from Honda, Subaru and Toyota maybe in the 2017 model year.

 

[Jstpssng]

Tires make all the difference. With anti-lock brakes it can be hard to tell what tires will work well and what ones will struggle. In snow and gravel you really want the tires to dig in, exactly what anti-locks try to avoid. The original tires on my Tundra sucked but when I replaced them with BFG All Terrain KOs it was like night and day. Now I just run good winter tires from Thanksgiving to the end of April.

What's worse than anti-lock brakes is traction control. Nothing like the car stopping on the brakes as you are trying to get your tires to dig through the snow. Often if the conditions are bad enough I just turn off the electronic nannies. I've driven for 30 years just fine without them.

At least they allow us to turn off the traction control... although above a certain speed it turns itself back on. There's nothing like getting a run for an unplowed hill; only to have the TC kick in just when you need the power, and you end up digging yourself out. I used to disable the ABS so that I could stop in snow; but the potential liability caused me to stop that practice. Now I just run into things like everybody else.
(Not really, I haven't had an at fault accident in almost 40 years)

 

[Garandman]

What they teach in winter driving school is to brake just less than the ABS threshold.

Of course if you have lousy tires you aren稚 going to slow down much.....

Subaru痴 allow you to completely turn off their VSC system, which is their 4 wheel ESC system.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
I do that instinctively, yet it doesn't change that ABS requires up to 50% more stopping distance in snow.

 

[Raspy]

This is what a real truck looks like.


All you guys driving 3/4 ton pickups are just posers. A piece of plywood between the wheel wells? Ha! Pull a 5,000 lb trailer? Ha!

 

[goeduck]

Impressive, can it be parked as easily and in the same places as a Ridgeline?

 

[bcp]

Tire replacement would cost as much as buying a Ridgeline, and you still can't place a sheet of plywood between the rear wheels.



Bruce

 

[Raspy]

Point is, Ridgelines are just fine and 3/4 ton trucks are fine too. 3/4 tons are just a bit farther along the scale but wimpy compared to bigger, "real" trucks. They all have their place and Ridgelines are very good at what they do. It is just silly to say Ridgelines are not real, based on what a 3/4 can do, or what a Kenworth can do.

 

[CincyFlyer]

I run in 4WD when road conditions are bad. With the driveline locked up, as a last resort you can use the parking brake for an emergency stop.
Just expect to be rear ended because everyone else is depending on ABS, so the tire with the least traction determines stopping ability.

Actually, it's the average of all four tires, as ABS doesn't work "down" to the lowest tire, but merely keeps all four rolling, so it can have four different "programs" going at once. You can check this out by driving with two wheels on ice and two on dry pavement.