Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability

   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #101  
You had me until the last line but that’s for another day.

You may have heard the story about a town with one starving lawyer. He was in pitiful financial shape until another lawyer moved to town. In a year they were both rich.

Lawyers are like a pair of scissor. They cut up everything that comes between them but only sharpen themselves.
In the US, there is one lawyer per 240 people, which is easily #1 in the world. We have 1 Doctor per 385 people, which is below the developed (and much of the undeveloped) world average, BTW. Nice.

Think about that for a minute. The 240 people? That includes men, women and children.

So if a Lawyer needs at least $150,000 a year to survive (they do, and that figure is low) then that means that every single solitary human being inside the United States has to contribute $600 per year to support lawyers. Somehow, some way, you do.

Now, eliminate people who can't pay anything.... Children, the retired, the disabled, the poor and how much do you think each working Man and Woman has to contribute to a profession that is completely and totally dishonest and mostly unnecessary?

Japan keeps the number of lawyers in their Country low. On puprose. Approximately one for every 4,200 citizens. And they don't even like having that many. They recognize that the profession is inherently dishonest and uniformly corrupt. Up to, including and especially, Judges.

But the average American will gleefully turn on the TV and watch hour after hour of programming that practically canonizes them, worships them, portrays them as the Heroes Of The People.

Go figure
 
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   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #103  
There's a LOT more involved in law than nasty lawsuits.

Lawsuits usually have a winner and a loser . . . which means somebody is going to be REALLY unhappy about their encounter with the legal "system" and won't be shy about telling people about it. Nor do I blame them, sometimes people do get hammered. When people are in divorce court, the time for reasonable discussion is long over.

Disclosure - I've been married to a lawyer for 25 years, and I'm still alive. (No, my theme song is not "They're coming to take me away, ha ha".) She's good to me, I get 10% off the first $500 of my legal bills every year.

She was a Public Defender way back when. Everyone is entitled to equal protection under the law (even though it seems if you have a lot of money, your protection will be somewhat more equal), and that's what Public Defenders do, they defend people who don't have any money.

One case involved a guy who got sent up the river for ten years for allegedly exposing himself to his girlfriend's 13 year old daughter. On review, it turned out the girlfriend and the daughter concocted the story to "get even" with him for breaking up with the girlfriend.

Now here's a guy, somewhat handicapped, a little developmentally slow, ethnic minority, and now he also has a criminal record (for no valid reason). Who in the world would hire this guy when he finally gets out? Final result, he got sprung, the record was expunged, and the girlfriend and the daughter are now enjoying the hospitality of the state for fraud. He's got an honest job and is supporting himself.

After a few years of that, she went into child protection. Daddy's in the slammer (again), mommy failed her drug test (again), the kids are filthy, bug-bitten and malnourished. I am going to tell you right now, you cannot even begin to imagine the twisted, sick s**t some people deliberately put their own kids through, and you know what, you don't even want to begin to imagine it.

I did some back-office work for her, filing, etc., and after a while I asked her to stop taking these cases, it was just too distressing and depressing. Eventually she did.

She's now semi-retired, and is the magistrate for the city. She reviews code violations and tries to work them out instead of just slapping them with fines. 99% of the time, that works, everyone goes away if not happy, at least not unhappy.

She also does some occasional minor work such as powers of attorney, fixes errors on deeds, does minor revisions on wills, stuff like "Your divorce isn't final, sign it here and go file it.", things like that.

Her bill is usually $50 or $100, more often she doesn't even charge at all. This is a small town, these are neighbors, and we help each other out. You'd be amazed at the number of people who have small, unresolved legal issues which don't bother them right now, but if they aren't fixed, they will be a BIG problem later.

Besides, she can't be an ambulance chaser, her Subaru just isn't fast enough.

Best Regards,

Mike/Florida
 
   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #105  
There's a LOT more involved in law than nasty lawsuits.

Lawsuits usually have a winner and a loser . . . which means somebody is going to be REALLY unhappy about their encounter with the legal "system" and won't be shy about telling people about it. Nor do I blame them, sometimes people do get hammered. When people are in divorce court, the time for reasonable discussion is long over.

Disclosure - I've been married to a lawyer for 25 years, and I'm still alive. (No, my theme song is not "They're coming to take me away, ha ha".) She's good to me, I get 10% off the first $500 of my legal bills every year.

She was a Public Defender way back when. Everyone is entitled to equal protection under the law (even though it seems if you have a lot of money, your protection will be somewhat more equal), and that's what Public Defenders do, they defend people who don't have any money.

One case involved a guy who got sent up the river for ten years for allegedly exposing himself to his girlfriend's 13 year old daughter. On review, it turned out the girlfriend and the daughter concocted the story to "get even" with him for breaking up with the girlfriend.

Now here's a guy, somewhat handicapped, a little developmentally slow, ethnic minority, and now he also has a criminal record (for no valid reason). Who in the world would hire this guy when he finally gets out? Final result, he got sprung, the record was expunged, and the girlfriend and the daughter are now enjoying the hospitality of the state for fraud. He's got an honest job and is supporting himself.

After a few years of that, she went into child protection. Daddy's in the slammer (again), mommy failed her drug test (again), the kids are filthy, bug-bitten and malnourished. I am going to tell you right now, you cannot even begin to imagine the twisted, sick s**t some people deliberately put their own kids through, and you know what, you don't even want to begin to imagine it.

I did some back-office work for her, filing, etc., and after a while I asked her to stop taking these cases, it was just too distressing and depressing. Eventually she did.

She's now semi-retired, and is the magistrate for the city. She reviews code violations and tries to work them out instead of just slapping them with fines. 99% of the time, that works, everyone goes away if not happy, at least not unhappy.

She also does some occasional minor work such as powers of attorney, fixes errors on deeds, does minor revisions on wills, stuff like "Your divorce isn't final, sign it here and go file it.", things like that.

Her bill is usually $50 or $100, more often she doesn't even charge at all. This is a small town, these are neighbors, and we help each other out. You'd be amazed at the number of people who have small, unresolved legal issues which don't bother them right now, but if they aren't fixed, they will be a BIG problem later.

Besides, she can't be an ambulance chaser, her Subaru just isn't fast enough.

Best Regards,

Mike/Florida

Lol, my best friend has a law degree, I considered it but didn’t. As many court cases and documents I’ve worked with I should have.
 
   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #106  
Some lawyers live in fear of the Malpractice Lawyers.
I spent a year and a-ton of time and $ trying to find a mal practice lawyer. ha, joke

Just like Drs, they will not go after one of their own unless it's an absolutely guaranteed open and shut case. IE, easy money.

I Been there. I had at least 3 lawyers tell me my lawyer was negligent but...they couldn't take the case. I mean, What would they say when they saw the guy at the country club later that day?

The best part was when I called the NC Bar and the secretary went way way way out of her way to help me! She hated lawyers more than I do because, she knew them well. That was funny.

Here's the best test. Go find some late middle aged women, a little dumpy, who work as paralegals in a-law office. They are over the hill so none of the guys are sniffin anymore.

I knew 2 that met that description and you can not believe the stories they told and the hate in their eyes. A woman scorned.

I know all lawyers are not as above but the system is a joke. Until you been there, then it's not so funny.
 
   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #107  
You ever research who lawyers donate the most money to?
Its a real eye opener
 
   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #109  
Yep.

Same as teacher unions.

MoKelly
If someone could just get in front of a national audience and articulate that so all can understand.
 
   / Hiring Someone to Work on Property - Liability #110  
Here's what everybody has missed in this thread. Or maybe I missed it and if I did, sorry 'bout that.

But if a kid of 16, 17, 18 is working on your property and he skins his knee, I don't see a problem.

If he breaks an arm, then a decent human being would WANT him to be taken care of.

If he takes out an eye while weed-whacking, I would WANT him to be taken care of. I would want my HO policy to pay to its limit. That's what it's there for. (it is different state to state and policy to policy. Assume nothing)

I mean, what kind of people are we talking about here? Seriously. Is it all about you or doesn't the kid matter at all?

The kid matters to me. A lot.

I understand the plethora of 'slip and fall' lawyers infesting our Country. How can you miss them when they're on TV every night, every day, every morning on every TV show encouraging people to sue, sue, sue (Yes, Virginia. We have too many lawyers in this Country [even lawyers will tell you that])

Which is why, if it's just silly stuff like some weed-eating (Put those goggles on, NOW!) or the usual liftin' and totin' I'm not gonna get excited about it. My CPL should take care of most incidents. But if it won't, chances are you got the wrong kid doing the wrong stuff.

Common sense should prevail
 

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