Hi From NZ :-)

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ML2018

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1981 David brown 1212
Hi Folks, and thanks to Admin for welcome thread.

I am a Brit, living in NewZealand for the last 11years, I am in my mid 50's and have a background in mechanical design and production engineering.

I work full time as an Agricultural training Tutor around Northland NZ, I also own small sheep and beef lifestyle farm of about 19 hectares, which i run part time (weekends)

This would be carrying about 40 head of mixed beef cattle, varying seasonally, in a closed herd breeding environment - this year we had 14 calves for spring calving.

We have the usual few pet sheep and a ram, which keeps the freezer full, plus a horse about to foal, some chook's, and some great indigenous wildlife (Hares, Possums, Turkeys, Marsh Harriers Quails, Pheasants wild pig etc)

The farm came with an "Old"David Brown 1212 Diesel Tractor,which i think produced when new about 72HP Din. It was one of the last produced during the Case takeover, manufactured about 1981 - cosmetically it is in a sadly neglected state, but Mechanically it is a good Tractor.

My use is for general farm work, rolling, tilling, scrapping spraying, post ramming, seeding, fert-spreading and hay harvest yearly - this is its largest use in the year usually cutting and baling between 350 and 650 conventional bales, depending how the season has gone, and how much land is put down to hay.

My main reasons for joining the forum is that i have pushed the old girl about as far as she will go, and am severely limited as to what can be achieved safely on our heavy clay loam soils, hence i am looking to purchase a newish cab tractor about 90-110hp, mainly as most of my implements are 2.5m, needing this sort of power to run tillage effectively, being the heaviest job on the task sheet.

The other huge advantage i need is 4WD as the old 1212 is 2WD :-( .

I am looking for view on peoples experience from angles such as fuel consumption per hp hr, stability on hills, reliability, parts costs, cab ergonomics and effectiveness of controls in controlling implements

:) :) :)

I am kind of heading towards one of either Fendt, John Deer, Case, Massey Ferguson or Claas, from what i have driven, seen and read but i have little experience of using these machines in serious agricultural application, so am initially looking for peoples view and experiences of this size of tractor.

thanks all - in anticipation

Mark
 
   / Hi From NZ :-) #2  
Welcome to the forums Mark! Sorry I am not much help in the larger farm tractor arena. I don't go beyond an entry level utility tractor. I do hope you find all of the answers you seek!
 
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:welcome:
To the TBN forum Mark. This is a great site with very knowledgeable people and you will get more help than you will know what to do with.

Everyone here loves to spend other people's money so buckle up.
 
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:welcome:

Welcome to the forum!

:tractor: I'm going to move this thread over to our buying, pricing, and comparisons section.
 
   / Hi From NZ :-) #7  
Welcome!

So for us American folk, 19 hectares is 47 acres.

I don’t know much about the big boy tractors, but the Kubota M5 and M6 tractors look really nice.
 
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In 2007 I purchased my first 4wd vehicle of any kind and it happened to be a tractor. HP was 57 PTO vs a 100 hp 2wd tractor that I had previously. Both mechanically as near perfect as could be, new rubber on both, neither having duals on the rear axle.

I am using the same implements, in midrange gears, with the 57 PTO 4wd (6530C Branson) I used with the 2wd tractor (4230C JD) . Also situations occur where the extra driven axle just helps to make things happen. I'm not making any performance comparison limits on either tractor since the tractors are almost 2:1 in power ratings....just the fact that I bought implements suited for the 100 hp and can use efficiently on the smaller tractor and I believe it's due to the extra traction afforded by the extra axle pulling power. I don't have a picture of the JD handy but here's one on the Branson with just such an implement. Sweeps are 10" and soil is Houston Black (heavy) clay.

I think whatever you decide to purchase, 4wd would be to your benefit.
 

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   / Hi From NZ :-) #9  
:welcome: to TBN Mark...enjoy.
 
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Take a hard look at a Massey Ferguson 4709 or 4710 Global series tractor. Impressive machines. Unmatched cab ergonomics, and heaviest in its weight class of Utility tractors. Very well built.20180927_210106.jpeg
 
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