Heart Healthy Eating

   / Heart Healthy Eating #241  
When we were younger, the wife and I did run our own farm. Like you we raised all of our food and did much canning. We had animals and garden stuff. As time slipped by, we gradually ceased this kind of life style. Kids grew, they needed work around their houses, wife got sick and we lost our previous production values. I agree with you fully about what to do to guarantee one's food source. Today we still run a garden and eat in season. The next best thing is to buy at farmers co-op. When I used to eat meat regularly it was always from a local friend who raised one or two head at a time. He's since pasted away so now I'm living a sort of compromise. It is helping to have cut out meat form our diets but as we live in an area of winter, its tough if not impossible to get local produce. Good for you Ron for doing this yourself.
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #242  
When we were younger, the wife and I did run our own farm. Like you we raised all of our food and did much canning. We had animals and garden stuff. As time slipped by, we gradually ceased this kind of life style. Kids grew, they needed work around their houses, wife got sick and we lost our previous production values. I agree with you fully about what to do to guarantee one's food source. Today we still run a garden and eat in season. The next best thing is to buy at farmers co-op. When I used to eat meat regularly it was always from a local friend who raised one or two head at a time. He's since pasted away so now I'm living a sort of compromise. It is helping to have cut out meat form our diets but as we live in an area of winter, its tough if not impossible to get local produce. Good for you Ron for doing this yourself.

Arrow,
I think as we get older it crosses our minds as to " how many harvests do we have left?" I have learned a lot from this thread and didn't realize how grateful
I should be to have a body that can process cholesterol naturally, like Don's brother.
From my snooping I find that doesn't give me, or anyone else, any better chance, statistically, to not have a heart attack, than someone with bad cholesterol numbers.
Many of the things you have talked about and questioned about potential causes of heart attack are found here Does Cholesterol Really Matter?
In this case, the recommendation of "niacin" might be dangerous if it interacted with other drugs people take. We just have to put trust in our doctors for our own unique situations. If not, why bother going in the first place..
Ron
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #243  
After listening to that NPR radio segment on sugar I mentioned earlier, I read that the RDA of sugar for males is 37.5 grams (9 teaspoons) & have started reading the amount of sugar in everything I consume. I can't believe how much sugar there is in so many things I normally eat! How have I lived this long?!?

1 bottle of Gatorade, my default drink while working outside in the FL heat, has almost an entire day's worth of sugar. Now, maybe that's a good thing?, replacing what I've lost while sweating? Still reading up ...
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #244  
After listening to that NPR radio segment on sugar I mentioned earlier, I read that the RDA of sugar for males is 37.5 grams (9 teaspoons) & have started reading the amount of sugar in everything I consume. I can't believe how much sugar there is in so many things I normally eat! How have I lived this long?!?

1 bottle of Gatorade, my default drink while working outside in the FL heat, has almost an entire day's worth of sugar. Now, maybe that's a good thing?, replacing what I've lost while sweating? Still reading up ...

Drink water with some lemon juice in it.:thumbsup:

Seems I recall reading some years ago that the power drinks were only required after about seven days of professional athlete preformance???:)
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #245  
Drink water with some lemon juice in it.:thumbsup:

Seems I recall reading some years ago that the power drinks were only required after about seven days of professional athlete preformance???:)

Only drink water with Lemon at home....Here I go again on food safety....I saw a piece on TV not long ago about ordering Ice water with Lemon at restaurants and an investigative reporter disclosed how unsanitary the lemons are handled in the back ,...where you do not see...they are usually not washed, laying around on dirty counters and then placed in your glass of water by hands that have just bused tables with dirty dishes....so be careful...
 
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#248  

Very significant! That is exactly what this thread is all about. You notice the Cleveland Clinic on the web page. I called and spoke to the people in the cardiac rehab a couple of months ago about Dr. Esselstyn's plant based diet. They said it does work and is the best food for recovery, the only problem is that most people cannot change their diet.
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #249  
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1 bottle of Gatorade, my default drink while working outside in the FL heat, has almost an entire day's worth of sugar. Now, maybe that's a good thing?, replacing what I've lost while sweating? Still reading up ...

Sports Drinks make me sick because of the sugar. Literally. The only time I can drink them is when I am exercising very heavily. By heavily I mean paddling a kayak at 5+ mph on a 20 mile trip in 4-5 hours. THEN I can drink a sports drink without getting sick.

There was doctor TBNer who was active years ago. Back in the day he published a recipe for a home made sports drink. It was water, sugar, maybe baking soda and potassium. I have used it for years without the sugar.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/1384-heat-stroke-isnt-cool-2.html look at post 19 for the recipe by RCH. He makes a few more comments on the thread that are interesting as well.

Later,
Dan
 
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#250  
pacerron; Many of the things you have talked about and questioned about potential causes of heart attack are found here [url=http://www.advancednaturalmedicine.com/heart-health/does-cholesterol-really-matter.html said:
Does Cholesterol Really Matter?[/url]

Ron

Ron here is a study on the cholesterol levels of people who come to the hospital with heart attacks.
Mostheart attack patients' cholesterol levels did not indicate cardiac risk / UCLA Newsroom
They are thinking the normal levels might need to be lowered.

Through diet I had got my cholesterol levels to inside the norm, well, higher end norm. I was not on statins. This was a non-fasting emergency room blood draw during my heart attack, right before they opened my right coronary artery put in my stent. As you can see they were not that bad. I had started eating vegan for several months before and lots of nuts, avocados etc. My weight then was 185. I had been taking Niacin for several years.

Day of Heart Attack Numbers
Total cholesterol 189
Triglycerides 86
HDL 48
LDL 123

I guess it was the years before when the plaque formed. The force of the blood running up that hill just broke it loose and a blood clot formed a.k.a. heart attack.
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #251  
Day of Heart Attack Numbers
Total cholesterol 189
Triglycerides 86
HDL 48
LDL 123
I guess it was the years before when the plaque formed. The force of the blood running up that hill just broke it loose and a blood clot formed a.k.a. heart attack.

I wonder what it is that makes your liver overproduce cholesterol and then not filter it out properly coming back through? Even with the Statin drugs which are suppossed to reduce your liver's ability to produce cholesterol you have still had to resort to extraordinary measures to keep it under control.
Do they do any liver testing with someone in your condition on a routine basis?
We are all walking time bombs of one sort or another with conditions that may
really mess us up, but we often don't know we have them until some test or radiation study for perhaps something entirely different just happens to expose it.
In your case you were trying to control a known cholesterol problem but something just wouldn't let you do it.
I have said before; you are strong willed and trying to fix the problem. As Doc said he get's tired of the whiners that just complain and want a pill to fix everything instead of putting forth any effort themselves.
BTW.. Your driveway is looking great!
Ron
 
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#252  
Do they do any liver testing with someone in your condition on a routine basis?
Ron

My liver functions are tested at each lab blood drawn cholesterol test since I'm taking statins. They are perfect.
I realize now I had too much oil/fats in my diet even though I did not eat animal products for several months.
Here is a study that showed fruits and vegetables can affect a heart disease chromosome in a positive way.

PLoS Medicine: The Effect of Chromosome 9p21 Variants on Cardiovascular Disease May Be Modified by Dietary Intake: Evidence from a Case/Control and a Prospective Study
 
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   / Heart Healthy Eating #253  
My liver functions are tested at each lab blood drawn cholesterol test since I'm taking statins. They are perfect.
I realize now I had too much oil/fats in my diet even though I did not eat animal products for several months.
Here is a study that showed fruits and vegetables can affect a heart disease chromosome in a positive way.

PLoS Medicine: The Effect of Chromosome 9p21 Variants on Cardiovascular Disease May Be Modified by Dietary Intake: Evidence from a Case/Control and a Prospective Study

Yes, the blood panel that is used for cholesterol also includes ALT and AST which if over time, or suddenly, gets worse can indicate the liver is being damaged by a number of possible factors, drugs, alchohol, smoking, etc.

But you are saying you have actually had a chromosone test that indicated your possible risk factors?
Has your brother had the same chromosone test with different results?
 
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#254  
No chromosome test. It would be interesting to find out.
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #255  
No chromosome test. It would be interesting to find out.

Maybe not. I wouldn't do it....for myself.
I interpretted your earlier message as if you already had done it.
You might be predisposed of some other things you don't know about that would give you undue concern. The technology is too iffy and the quality is not controlled.
Your doing a stellar job of controlling your condition already.
But you gotta make your own call on whether or not to try things.
Pay no attention to me. I'm just curious as to what is going on in the heart
condition field these days. I had my mother live with us for her final 5 years after she had her first heart attack in the late 90's. and I could write a book, but won't.
Gene Testing
 
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#256  
After seeing all those diseases that can be gene tested for the only time I would want gene testing is when I could do something about it or to confirm or rule out a diagnosis.
 
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#257  
TMR and wife came to my world for a few hours yesterday. We had good conversation and good heart healthy food for lunch. We had Salisbury Steak, carrot and white bean salad, and a big green salad. Of course for desert we had the, cinnamon rolls. The meal was all plant based and fat free.

I promised to put the recipes on line to share with everyone.
Also at the bottom are a few recipes that we talked about that have nutritional yeast.


Salisbury Steak:

1/4 Cup Cooked Lentils, Drained (little more than 1/8 cup dry)
1/2 Cup Old Fashioned Oats
1 1/4 Cups Cooked Brown Rice (3/4 cup dry)
2 Tablespoons Wheat Germ
2 Tablespoons Wheat Gluten
1/2 Tablespoon Ground Flaxseed
1 1/2 Teaspoons Chili Powder
1/4 Teaspoon Poultry Seasoning
1/4 Teaspoon Black Pepper
1/4 Teaspoon Salt
1 Teaspoon Garlic Powder
1 Teaspoon Onion Powder
1 1/2 Tablespoon Low Sodium Soy Sauce


Ingredients For Gravy

1 Medium White Onion, Chopped
1 Tablespoon Ketchup
1/2 Tablespoon Low Sodium Soy Sauce
2 Tablespoons Whole Wheat Flour
1 1/4 Cups Water
1/2 Teaspoon Onion Powder
Pepper and Salt to taste

Prepare skillet first. We don't want to turn it on yet, we just want to have it ready to lay the steak patties into the skillet. So coat skillet with thin layer of water.

Next in a food processor coarsely chop lentils, oats and rice, about 7 pulses. We just want to break them up, not puree them, so careful careful. Plop that into a mixing bowl and add the wheat germ, wheat gluten, flaxseed, chili powder, poultry seasoning, pepper, salt, garlic and onion powder and soy sauce. Kneed together ingredients with your hands untl well combined. Split mixture into 5 equal parts. May need to add water - one Tbsp at a time - so the mixture sticks together. Heat skillet between medium to low. Now that the skillet is hot shape portioned mixture into oval patties and place into skillet and cook 10 minutes, 5 minutes on each side, covered. Adding a teaspoon of water here and there to the skillet if it looks like it's going to burn.

Remove patties from the pan and set aside. Add onion to skillet and cook on medium, stirring constantly until caramelized. Push onion to the side of the pan.

In a jar with a tight fitting lid put ketchup,soy sauce, flour, water, onion powder and salt and pepper to taste. Put lid on jar and shake until all lumps are gone. Pour into skillet stirring together with onions and bring to a boil until thickened. Add steak patties back to the pan and coat patties with gravy. Serve.

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Carrot/White Bean Salad

3 TBS fresh lemon juice
1/4 tsp fine grain salt
1/2 cup thinly sliced shallots (optional)

2 cups sliced carrots cut into thin coins
1 cups cooked white beans (or 1 can rinsed)
1/4 cup chopped fresh dill
2 TBSP brown sugar

Put lemon juice, salt, and shallots in a small bowl and set aside.

In skillet over medium high heat, toss carrots with splash of water and let them cook in a single layer. Keep cooking (adding small amounts of water as needed to prevent burning), tossing gently every few 2 to 3 minutes until carrots are soft and browned (approx 12 minutes total).

Add beans and dill to skillet and cook for another five minutes or until the beans are well heated. Add more water if needed to prevent burning.

Place contents of skillet into large mixing bowl, sprinkle with brown sugar and pour lemon mixture over the top. Toss gently. Let sit for ten minutes and toss gently once again. Adjust tast with more salt, sugar, or lemon juice as needed to balance flavors.

Serve warm or at room temperature.

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Cinnamon Rolls are posted here on post # 170 please make sure you read the modification/changes I made to the on line recipe.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/related-topics/204681-wish-me-luck-fast-ambulance-17.html

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Recipes with nutritional yeast
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Homemade VEG chicken broth:

1/2 cup nutritional yeast
1 tsp onion powder
1/4 tsp garlic powder
1 tsp celery seed
2 1/2 tsp Italian seasoning

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Note: The Cheesy sauce is a what I call a transitional food to get weaned from cheese. It is more heart healthy than cheese and has 1/4 less fat and no cholesterol, but with the nuts it exceeds the amount of fat/oil for those with heart disease.

Compared to cheddar cheese:

Cheesy Sauce 2g fat, 0 cholesterol
Cheddar Cheese 9g fat, 30mg cholesterol



Cheesy Sauce

1/4 cup raw almonds or raw cashews (cashews are softer, so may work better in some blenders.) plain, no salt, cashew butter also works well.
2 cups water
1 tsp. salt (or less to your taste)
1/4 cup nutritional yeast
1 tsp onion powder
1/2 tsp garlic powder
3 Tbsp cornstarch or arrowroot powder
1 Tbsp. lemon juice to taste. (More makes it a sharper cheese flavor, less a milder flavor)
1/3 cup roasted or fresh red bell pepper (optional for color)
Option: blend 1 tsp canned jalapeños for a great nacho-style cheese.

1. Blend all ingredients until smooth.
2. Pour into a saucepan and bring to a boil while stirring constantly.
3. It will thicken to nacho cheese consistency. Serve hot.

Nutritional Info for ¼ cup sauce
45 calories
2 grams fat
0 mg. cholesterol

Great over macaroni for mac & cheese

•This is great as a dip for chips, over taco salad, on tacos or burritos, over vegetables, and over baked potatoes.
•Try sautéing veggies, pouring cheesy sauce over the veggies, then serving the cheesy veggies over baked potatoes.
•Add to broccoli soup for broccoli-cheddar soup.
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   / Heart Healthy Eating #258  
Hi Don,

We are home tonight.......nearly 6,000 miles since we left MN on February 28th.
Just got in at 8:15 pm and have already been to the grocery store to stock up on veggies and fruit, etc.

From coast to coast, at each of our stops along our trip we've told the story of our meeting you and the wonderful heart healthy lunch your prepared for us. I especially was impressed with your beautifully set table (I belong to the Int'l Table Setters organization!) We want to thank you and "Mrs. TX Don" for the wonderful hospitality you showed us (we were a little worried when there were cows on the road into your house!) We also enjoyed the guided tour of your property. Your new bridge was especially creative and we loved the story of how it came to be.

Thanks to you both for the recipes you've provided for us. You can bet we will be making them very soon. Along the route I received a birthday gift of the book THE HAPPY HERBIVORE and we were prepared many heart healthy meals by our hosts. Everyone was interested in our weight loss and what we were doing......you've planted seeds for more than just Tom and I. Tomorrow is the post vacation weigh in so that will tell volumes. I was on the last hole in my belt buckle today so am hopeful that the indulgences we had were minor violations and we won't have a major set-back.

Thanks again for your hospitality.........it was wonderful meeting up with you and learning your story first-hand. Next time you must come to MN with Mrs. TX Don and we'll reciprocate!

Hugs to you both........MRS TMR
 
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Hi Don,

We are home tonight.......nearly 6,000 miles since we left MN on February 28th.
MRS TMR

Wow, I bet you are glad to be home. I learned something from you also. I was concerned that my LDL cholesterol level had gone up a few points along with my triglyceride level. Your mentioning of candy bars and our discussion on different milks got me really looking at my sugar intake. I thought I was doing OK because none of my sugar/products had fat in them. I did not think I was eating any more sweets but when I went shopping I looked into the basket and realized - oops. The culprits - Maple syrup, sweet rice wafers, sugar in some whole wheat cereals, 1/2 sugar strawberry preserves, vanilla soy milk, and most condiments, etc... Time to tweak again and I'm really watching now. (I'm going to miss the cinnamon rolls.) I have another Cholesterol test in a month.

A quote from Dr. Esselstyn - "The body compensates to the sugar high with a surge of insulin from the pancreas - and the insulin, in turn stimulates the liver to manufacture more cholesterol. It may also elevate triglyceride levels."
 
   / Heart Healthy Eating #260  
oops.[/B] The culprits - Maple syrup, sweet rice wafers, sugar in some whole wheat cereals, 1/2 sugar strawberry preserves, vanilla soy milk, and most condiments, etc... Time to tweak again and I'm really watching now. (I'm going to miss the cinnamon rolls.) I have another Cholesterol test in a month.QUOTE]

And remember what I said about drinking soda pop a while back.
Not even the diet/sugarless stuff.
 

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