Head lights/Fog lights

[hwp]

I know on my Lexus, the only way you know they're on is if you notice the color (they're not yellow, but they're different than the headlights) or you notice the switch position. There's no indicator light on the dash for example to tell you they're on.

That's odd because there is a dash light indicator on my Camry. I would have thought that if Toyota does it for the lower line vehicles they would also do it for the upper line ones.

 

[kensfarm]

...it is illegal to put ash's or butt's out the window.

That law must not be working.. I still see kids mooning people all the time!!

I just use a half cup of water for an ashtray.. the cig. goes right out.. no ashtray's to clean.

 

[1bush2hog]

Unless you're going less than 20mph, they are lighting an area of the road in which you could not possibly stop. So what is the point of seeing this area?

CP1969 - Maybe you have never driven on some of the same types of backroads at night? The lights DO help me see the edges of the road, especially where roads are narrow and curvy and the whitelines, and sometimes the yellow lines too, either do not exist or are difficult to see. Alot of times the edge of the road looks the same as the shoulder and without added visibility from additional lighting are downright dangerous to unfamiliar drivers.

 

[BobRip]

I'm not advocating for or against DRL's , but at Fedex Ground drivers are required to run with headlights on even during the day. quote]

So Fed Ex makes their trucks a muted brown and hard to see and they compensate by making their drivers run lights. I perfer a passive approach, white vehicle and lights off. I try to buy light colored cars. I wonder (I don't really know) if the lights make make the vehicle they are on safer, but cause the total accident rates to go up from eye fatigue and distraction. During the day there is almost always plenty of light from the sun. Just make the cars visible by making the whole vehicle visible from the visible paint color, don't use up oil lights for this.

 

[Dargo]

I'm not advocating for or against DRL's , but at Fedex Ground drivers are required to run with headlights on even during the day. quote]

So Fed Ex makes their trucks a muted brown and hard to see and they compensate by making their drivers run lights.

Um, I think the Fed Ex trucks are white. I think it's the UPS trucks that are brown.

 

[BobRip]

Uh. Sorry. My error.

 

[Dusty]

Um, I think the Fed Ex trucks are white. I think it's the UPS trucks that are brown.

and UPS doesn't require the drivers to use the headlamps during daytime. I also find it interesting that many states don't require the headlamps to be illuminated when you are using your windshield wipers. This one makes sense, but headlamps on during the daytime doesn't to me.
Dusty

 

[cp1969]

Unless you're going less than 20mph, they are lighting an area of the road in which you could not possibly stop. So what is the point of seeing this area?

CP1969 - Maybe you have never driven on some of the same types of backroads at night? The lights DO help me see the edges of the road, especially where roads are narrow and curvy and the whitelines, and sometimes the yellow lines too, either do not exist or are difficult to see. Alot of times the edge of the road looks the same as the shoulder and without added visibility from additional lighting are downright dangerous to unfamiliar drivers.

That is most emphatically NOT the type of situation I'm talking about. I am talking about the use of these clown-on-board marker lights in mostly suburban situations--four lane, city, even on lighted thoroughfares, for crying out loud. In fact, I think it would be better for them to only be on when high beams are used...at least that way they'd be off once in a while. If all this illumination is necessary, high beams + driving lights would be the way to go. Hopefully some of these light addicts would feel obliged to dim their lights then...but, probably not.

 

[Dargo]

Uh. Sorry. My error.

Actually, I was laughing. I knew what you meant. I get the two mixed up all the time myself.

 

[Dargo]

I also find it interesting that many states don't require the headlamps to be illuminated when you are using your windshield wipers. This one makes sense, but headlamps on during the daytime doesn't to me.
Dusty

I always get the "inside" scoop about Toyota over Thanksgiving when my wife's relatives are over. A few of them work at a local Toyota plant. One was telling me that one of the prototype Toyota pickups brought by the plant for the workers to see had the headlights come on with the wiper switch as well as with the regular headlight switch. That way the driver would automatically turn on their headlights when they turned their wipers on. I didn't think it was too bad of an idea.