Haying with a 4110

[Keith_B]

My wife's BIL has had trouble with his 40+ year old 430 Case he inherited from my late FIL and haying with it this year has been problematic, as the gas keeps boiling in it.

My Mahindra 4110 was first pressed into service using the CCM 165 drum mower he bought new last week. The Mahindra cut fast, and handled the drum mower with ease. I let him hold onto the key in case they needed it for tedding or raking. I pulled into the drive on wednesday about dark and was in shock. He had hooked the 4110 to the NH 273 baler and they were broke down in the field. All kinds of bad thoughts when I saw the scene from a distance, imagining all kinds of damage to my tractor. I had mentioned to him that I did not think the 4110 would handle the shaking the baler put on a tractor. It turned out they had overloaded the baler by going too fast, or not running enough RPMs and had stuffed too much hay into her. I unpacked the hay, and tried out the tractor with the baler.

Much to my surprise the 4110 handled the baler easier than the Ford 4000 we had run it with for years had. I was shocked at how well the tractor baled the hay. This was some real heavy hay, due to an abundance of rain. The windrows were single raked and were wider than the baler's pickup in places.

If there is a tougher 40 hp CUT out there I'd sure like to see it in action, because the 4110 had handled everything I've thrown at it.

 

[civesnedfield]

I run a NH 315 behind my 4530. No problems at all. THe 4530 is a bit heavier that the 4110.

Did over 500 bales last weekend.

 

[Keith_B]

The 4530 is a much heavier tractor. They have about the same PTO HP 34 to 33.6, and are a about the same length. That extra weight has to come from heavier components, like heavier gears, sturdier 3pt connections, etc. The 30 series wasn't available when I bought my 4110, otherwise I'd of gone with it. The dimensions, other than weight, are fairly comparable there is only a few inches difference in overall length.

We baled some more hay yesterday, and I was surprised at the ease with which the 4110 handled the baler. Like I mentioned previously the baler ran smoother with the 4110 than it did with the much heavier and Ford 4000 with more PTO HP.

I've located a MF 165 the guy wants to sell or trade, and may see about trading my '03 Honda Rubicon for it. It is worth about what the guy wants for his tractor.

 

[zzvyb6]

A baler running at its rated pto rpm, with sharp cutoff knives, driveline straight, the hitch pin tight, and the pto shaft coupler in it's proper position relative to the hitch pin on the drawbar should not be shaking all that much. To prove it, you can run a baler stationary with the hitch pin disconnected and toss heavy hay loads into it manually, such as when you are cleaning up an area after loading the barn. If you have never done this, stop the retort now. Its designed as a coupled system and the flywheel smoothes out the plunger compression accordingly. Now, if you have a huge, worn out, drawbar hole, and/or too small a pin, or you have the hitch position height and length wrong, and/or you run at the wrong rpm to get a comfortable ground speed, or your cutoff knives are dull as a Manhatten socialite, there's gonna be a problem. I've even seen guys put the pto shaft together 90 or 180 degrees off so that its terribly out of balance and then complain about tractor performance. My neighbor put together the 1000 rpm driveline on his corn chopper a few years ago and then made a hard right turn. The shaft blew apart and came into the cab via the plexiglas rear window. Yep, he blamed the tractor. The pieces puzzled all back together showed it all.

 

[Briana03]

I moved your thread to the new Haying forum!