Have you ever had problems with these engines?

[CarlGlas]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Careful there Carl, we may ended WW2 but we sure didn't start it. )</font>

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Gee, some of you guys certainly read more into my comment than was intended. FDR did what he felt was necessary, unfortunately, as documents have been released, it had been discovered that many things could have been prevented, but they weren't. They were allowed to progress for a purpose.

I am not anti USA, just informed.

 

[CarlGlas]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> CarlGlas: Rather than warning you to "be careful" what you say, I'd just like you to know that I would fight and die for your right to say whatever you want to about the United States. This is not a perfect country, but I think it is (still) a great one, and no small part of that greatness lies in the fact that we are free to peacefully and respectfully express our opinions.

John </font> )</font>

John, thank you for your cautious concern. I wished I could apologize to those who completely misunderstood my comment, but why should I apologize for their misunderstandings. There was just more read into what I said than was intended and my comment had nothing to with politics, it was about economics.

 

[turbo36]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Careful there Carl, we may ended WW2 but we sure didn't start it. )</font>

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Gee, some of you guys certainly read more into my comment than was intended. FDR did what he felt was necessary, unfortunately, as documents have been released, it had been discovered that many things could have been prevented, but they weren't. They were allowed to progress for a purpose.

I am not anti USA, just informed.
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Jeez Carl you sound like we were the aggressors in WW2 "FDR did what he felt was necessary?" Do you really think we could have or should have stayed out of the war?

By the way it's good to know we have at least one "informed" member on this board /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[CarlGlas]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Careful there Carl, we may ended WW2 but we sure didn't start it. )</font>

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Jeez Carl you sound like we were the aggressors in WW2 "FDR did what he felt was necessary?" Do you really think we could have or should have stayed out of the war?

By the way it's good to know we have at least one "informed" member on this board /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )</font>



Thanks for your reply.

This isn't the proper forum to conduct this discussion and unless you are a scholar of world history between the years of 1939 and 1945, I have no interest in discussing the subject with you.

By the way, I think FDR was a good president.

 

[KJO]

A little closer to the subject matter of this thread....I recently got that CC3100 with the Kohler Command 23. As a result I decided to go to the Kohler web site and download their service manual for the Command 23. Granted...it has some unique features such as full pressurization, hydraulic valve lifters and one piece crankcase/cylinder assembly (which is made of aluminum). I really have to wonder, however, how this engine is going to last compared to my old K301 with ball bearings (the Command has shell bearing inserts like a car engine), a cast iron crankcase and cylinder assembly etc. It makes me wonder if the days of the long life small engine are over and what we have left to purchase are "throw away engines". Taking into consideration that any engine will only last as long as it is properly maintained and used, I really don't like what I see with the increased use of aluminum in engines...lawnmower, car or whatever. When I think of my grandkids in the year 2060, trying to restore Grandpa's old 3100, I can't help but think that it will be very difficult because servicable components will be hard to find.

 

[CarlGlas]

In the past, Kohler, as well as many other notable small engine manufactures made quality engines. Unfortunately, due to either poor design, outsourcing, or a lack of quality control,
the quality of some engines have diminished.

Knocking on wood, so far I have had no complaints with any of the B&S engines on my push mowers over the years (which I'll have to admit have been abused maintenance wise) or the 27HP Kohler Pro Command on my Sears DGT6000, which I am more loyal to maintaining.

However, I would advise anyone who cares to listen, please follow the manufactures suggestions on maintenance while it's under warranty.


(I won't mention the Honda that I have had since 1985 that still cranks on the first pull) /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[turbo36]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Careful there Carl, we may ended WW2 but we sure didn't start it. )</font>

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Jeez Carl you sound like we were the aggressors in WW2 "FDR did what he felt was necessary?" Do you really think we could have or should have stayed out of the war?

By the way it's good to know we have at least one "informed" member on this board /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )</font>



Thanks for your reply.

This isn't the proper forum to conduct this discussion and unless you are a scholar of world history between the years of 1939 and 1945, I have no interest in discussing the subject with you.

By the way, I think FDR was a good president.



Carl, I agree this isn't the proper forum and the discussion has gotten out of line but you were a early and willing participant with your comment about the survivors of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. All I was trying to do was caution you that there are still many in our society that are still greatly affected by their experiences in WW2 and are thus biased in the thoughts toward Japanese products. In our society they have the right to express those feelings as many on this board have stated their willingness to defend it ( in reference to my comment to show caution /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif).
As far as being a scholar of the period of 1939-1945 I may not be as learned as you but during my college years history of 1920-1950 was of great interest to me and I still do a lot of reading today. My wife is a Civil War period buff but I feel the early 20th century is far more complex and relevant. Two books that I believe give a very real look into life during this period are "Only Yesterday" by Frederick Lewis Allen and "The Glory And the Dream" by William Manchester, I'm sure you are familiar with these. Coming from a childhood of poverty I found these books to offer guidance in keeping a real perspective of life while pursuing the "American Dream".

So to sum it, if I offended you I apologize and offer a glass of Wine of your choosing (within reason /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) as a peace offering.

 

[CarlGlas]

Don't worry about it my friend, I wasn't offended by your or anyone else's comments and I don't take it personally because no one personally knows me.

However, here's something to ponder...

As you stated:

"In our society they have the right to express those feelings as many on this board have stated their willingness to defend it."

Am I exempted from this Right to express my feelings?

All I did was make a comment on an observation of someone's apparent dislike against a nationality of people, who today had no more to do with the events of World War II than I did.

World War II ended 61 years ago.

While we should never forget the past, what good does dwelling on it do? Will it change anything?

They hit us, we retaliated, they surrendered, and the war ended.

So, here we are, almost 65 years later fighting about the past.

Get over it and get on with your lives.

"So mote it be"

 

[Fordlords]

One thing to watch for with small lawn and garden tractors is that engine manufacturers Kohler and Briggs and Stratton have a commercial line (Command for Kohler, Vanguard for Briggs) rated to last in the 2000 hour range, and a cheap line (Courage for Kohler, Intek for Briggs) that are 750 hour rated engines. The better mowers will have the better engines, and of course cost more. The commercial lines of both manufacturers both get high consumer reports and are great long lasting runners. I'd pay the extra for them over the cheaper engine lines.

World War 2 ended almost 60 years ago, and Honda and Kawasaki make great small engines too, if that's what one chooses to use- it can be a personal preference thing of course, but those who have an understanding of a global market are not concerned about a long ended war, and also know that Honda and Kawasaki employ a lot of people in their USA assembly plants. Contrary to popular belief they are not much more expensive than high end Briggs or Kohler (check www.smallenginewarehouse.com), and the bigger HP engines are all commercial grade with 2000+ hour rated lifespans, they do not make a cheaper lineup of engines. Where I most often buy American brand names when I can, such as my pickup and car, I chose a Honda GX engine as the repower for my Cub Cadet 682. Why? Because in doing a thorough research with everything available, it hands down was the winner in about every category for a new 18 HP small engine and thus far I am ecstatic about its performance in my application.

Most any of the name brand small engines out there now are fantastic. They start easy, run smoothly, and the OHV designs really pinch fuel. All you can do is listen to word of mouth, read consumer reports, and use your best judgement to decide what make to choose.

-Fordlords-