Have 4410, but need to downsize!

newbury · Apr 19, 2016

stephenson said:
Hi All,

I have a 2004 (I think it is) 4410 ehydro with a 430 loader ...218 hours ...turf tires. Mainly used for snow removal and the odd digging job on our little 5 acres in northern Virginia. Bought it around 2005 with about 50 hours on it from a neighbor who was moving.

We are getting ready to downsize to a smaller piece of property on a lake nearby ...the 4410 is just too big. My goal is a smaller tractor that I can more easily transport between our place and our sons places. I also want the smaller one to have a backhoe for landscaping at the new property.

Any thoughts about how to go about the process of selling the 4410 and buying a smaller ...and, what model would make a good alternative to the 4410? I think I want to stay with JD.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments!

Depends a bit on other things not mentioned.

Where in Northern Virginia? Near Martinsburg? Route 1 and the Beltway? Manassas? I've a Kubota B7610 w/ Woods BH70X on a half acre in Groveton about where Route 1 and the Beltway meet, I've probably the biggest tractor for a mile or two.
If you are farther away from the beltway larger tractors make sense.

What attachments do you have? Will they transfer to the new tractor?

What do you have to trailer the tractor? I've a dually F350 that tows my 12K Hudson easily, my son has a little Nissan SUV that can only pull 5,000 pounds. We are trying to settle on a trailer for him with a 5K limit, my 12K Hudson is too big. But my B7610 (about 1,700 lbs w/ FEL and fuel) and backhoe (~900 lbs) can be squeezed onto a 5K GVW trailer for those short trips we need it for (he tried to argue 3K trailer but that's TOO small).

If you have to trailer YOUR present tractor (3,500 lbs w/ FEL and fuel) w/ a new backhoe (1,000 lbs?) you'll probably need a 7K trailer (1,500 lbs).

stephenson said:
Thank you to everyone for their comments ...I am tempted by the smaller footprint tractors, simply based in storage and transport considerations ...but I recognize how great the 4410 is.

I think I need to visit a couple of local dealers and touch and feel to get a sense of what makes sense ...

Also determine how much brand loyalty is worth to you. There are a LOT of what used to be lesser brands of tractors making ideal SCUTS for suburbans, and you can get them with decent backhoes and trailer packages.

TBN is for the most part always saying get one size bigger than what you think you need. But they don't always take into account limits you know you have.

jenkinsph · May 2, 2016

I agree with Curlly Dave, keep the tractor you have now. Going from the 4410 to a smaller tlb will be a let down. Make sure you test drive the small models with the loader and backhoe in operation. I tried a small tlb this weekend and thought it was a pitiful excuse for a tractor and way too much money for what it could do.

The owner of the small tlb hired me to do the work he thought his tractor could do. He said he had figured out it was too slow digging and did not have enough reach to move the dirt away from the ditch.

The 4410 is large enough with an add on backhoe to get small jobs done. Think this through before down sizing.