hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs

   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #11  
First thing - when grease gun is empty, remove the bleeder plug in the head(mine is a pipe plug type) before you pull the handle/rod back - this makes it easier to pull back for one thing and won't suck all the grease out of the pump section. I usually get what little bit of grease is left in the old tube out with my finger and pack it in and around the intake port in the head. When you put the new tube in, make sure the cardboard end is in perfect condition or the plunger will not start into it good when you release the handle. I screw my bleeder plug back in just barely a half turn or so and then let the handle/rod loose. Pushing the handle/rod in & out will not do anything for you, all you are doing is pushing the rod itself in & out of the grease, you are not doing anything to get the plunger going, only the spring will start the plunger into the tube. With the bleeder plug barely screwed in, I can wiggle it some in the threads and get air to bleed off until a little grease starts oozing out around the threads of the plug. It takes a little time for the plunger to push the column of grease up so be patient here, the spring will do it's job if the end of the tube was in good shape and the plunger has started into it OK. Once you get the grease oozing out of the bleeder a little a few pumps of the handle should get you going. This method has worked for me for about 40 years with many, many grease guns.
 
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Skipmarcy and others: outstanding advice and I thank you all. I worked with mine again yesterday. I could "feel" that the plunger was not going up into the tube and simply couldn't get it to work. Tried a new tube of grease with same results. It has an air valve but that didn't help since the plunger was not pushing the grease up. I looked at the plunger and edges of the grease tubes and cannot see why the plunger is not going up into the tube. At that point, I once again had gobs of grease all over the gun, work table, and floor and it it was getting too hot in the shed so I called it quits for the day.

I"m going to try one more experiment: I'm gonna make a wood "plunger" (just something to push the grease out of the tubes with) and see if I can fill the gun without using a grease tube at all. No way to do that without getting lots of air bubbles and then the problem will be if I can expel the air. This is one last try with the darn thing.

Couldn't get the Chinese gun I bought the other day to work either, so I'm taking it back for a refund. If I get another I may try one from Sears or Napa or whoever has the best quality. At this point, price is not an issue.
 
   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #13  
Does that plunger fit in the end of the grease cartridge???:D
 
   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #14  
The plunger is most likely catching on the end of the tube. I have a cheap HF pnuematic grease gun and the plunger was hanging up on the edge of the cartridge and not compressing the grease. Inspecting the plunger revealed a ridge around the circumfrence of the plunger that was wider than the diameter of the cartridge. The grease gun is labeled as handling both bulk load or cartridges so the plunger has to adapt to be able to accept either, hence the ridge. Problem was the ridge was hard and not able to pass through the smaller diameter when using a cartridge. Since I never bulk load I trimmed the ridge off the plunger. This has helped reduce grease feed problems. I still get a feed problem occasionly but it's ussually from air pockets formed when the plunger shaft is pushed fully into the cartridge and creates a path for an air pocket to form. Now I don't fully seat the plunger after loading a new cartridge.
 
   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #15  
I always unscrew the handle part,that connects to the tube to burp it if you get a restriction,sometimes you have to do it a few times.Dont unscrew it to far or youll have some real fun!
 
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#16  
Kodiak: I did something similar yesterday after releasing the plunger, I screwed the plug on top out a bit too far, trying to let the air out, and the plug came out along with gobs of grease before I could pull the plunger back to stop it!

Egon, not sure what you mean, but the plunger is made for use with or without tubes.

I've filled the gun up with loose grease but initial pumping, holding the air release valve didn't work, so I sat it out in the sun, upsided down to soften the grease and will give it another try. Maybe I can get the plug or air valve loose enuf to let air out without having the darn thing pop completely off again. Had some mowing to get done this morn before it got up into the 90's again here in mid-NC.

I sure am enjoying the Ck-30 and Italian mower I got with it. If only I could not back up over water hoses. Did that this morn and before I could push clutch in it had wound the complete 50ft hose around two of the blades.

I'm getting to be a real handyman around the house lately. And the wife keeps after me to fix the overhead fan here in the computer room!! Prob electrocute myself and burn down the house. :laughing:
 
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#17  
Since I know all of you can hardly wait to see how my experiment went, I won't keep you in suspense any longer.

Just now went out to shed, picked up gun that had been sitting upside down in the sun for hours, banged it on its head a bit in hopes of settling the grease, and dang if it didn't work on the first pump. Holding my breath, I then went out and did bout 8 fittings on the mower and the gun did its job. Stored the gun upside down, degreased my hands, and came back in the AC house for rest of day, feeling pleased with myself. :D

Now I gotta change out the straight zerk on the threadle with an angled one so I can get a shot or two in that fitting. Doubt that will help the sluggish threadle but its worth a try.
 
   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #18  
I always unscrew the handle part,that connects to the tube to burp it if you get a restriction,sometimes you have to do it a few times.Dont unscrew it to far or youll have some real fun!

Yep, I learned the fun part the hard way.:ashamed:
 
   / hand Held Grease Gun...loading probs #19  
Kodiak: I did something similar yesterday after releasing the plunger, I screwed the plug on top out a bit too far, trying to let the air out, and the plug came out along with gobs of grease before I could pull the plunger back to stop it!

If you got a gob of grease out when you unscrewed the head and had to pull the plunger out to stop it, then the rod cup must have been in the tube. If the cup was stuck on the lip, you wouldn't have any grease pressure when you removed the head. The grease tube would have just popped out like a jack-in-the -box, boing! It just takes some patients to work all the air out.
 

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