GUN ADVICE

   / GUN ADVICE #11  
Bleeding hearts, my butt. Dogs that kill livestock are lucky to live. It's their owner who's to blame, sadly, because the dog is just doing what a dog does. The first time, I assume that it is a mess-up and check with the owner to see if his dogs got out by accident or something. Shoot, I've had fences fail; stuff happens. I would expect the owner to pay for the cattle, although I think there's a fat chance that would actually happen, but I would definitely let him or her know just how much damage had been done, in dollars. The second time, the dog continues to live by my grace alone.
 
   / GUN ADVICE #12  
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These don't cost much and they shoot good enough with factory ammo. I've got one.
H&R Ultra Rifles
 
   / GUN ADVICE #13  
A savage model 110, .223.....should be able to pick one up used, with a decent scope, in your price range...will take care of the problem, .243 will as well...good luck...

Rich
 
   / GUN ADVICE #14  
Where are you? If you live close to Eastern Ia I would loan a gun and help you!!!
 
   / GUN ADVICE #15  
RobertBrown said:
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These don't cost much and they shoot good enough with factory ammo. I've got one.
H&R Ultra Rifles

They usually shoot very well.
 
   / GUN ADVICE #16  
Until you get a bigger caliber, don't write off the 22. My father, brother and I once got a half dozen dogs that had packed and attacked our sheep. We did it with 22s. Dogs attacking ignore their surroundings in their blood lust and you can get closer than you think. By the way, around here the county government offers partial reimbursement for livestock killed by dogs, bears and such.
 
   / GUN ADVICE #17  
I bought my nephew a .270 with scope combo for $375 new at Walmart, it was a few years ago, but that setup will do plenty what you want using 160gr silvertips ammo. Not sure what they cost now.

You could also check your local pawn shops and see if they will make a deal, just check the firearm over good.
 
   / GUN ADVICE #18  
Looking at your handle, perhaps you are near Austin. If so, PM me. I have a fellow come out and hunt coyotes. Dogs in the county are supposed to be on a leash...if wandering on my property, they are a target. You have a right to protect your cattle. Ideas include baiting them in. Use leg traps or snares...these are on duty when you sleep. You have gotten good gun advice....since you asked the question, perhaps you are newish to rifles....I'd suggest getting in a bunch of range practice with whatever you get...on your own property...it's what I do...if anyone asks me if I've seen their dog, I can truthfully reply..."not lately"....and if questioned about gun shots, I can reply "I do a lot of target practice, deer season is coming, you know."
 
   / GUN ADVICE #19  
Any flat shooting deer rifle with a good scope would be plenty. But do you have the skill to shoot it accurately is the question? A 250 yard shot on a dog sized target is not a gimme, and would require proper sighting in of the rifle with the selected ammo, a good solid rest to get an accurate shot, and care to make sure nothing or no one is downrange. Also if there is more than one, don't expect to kill more than one at a time. At the first shot, the dogs will be in high gear and not very many marksmen can hit a running dog at 200 plus yards. Also, any marginal hit will really be noisy, as in the dog howling like mad, and this will draw the attention of your neighbor if he is within hearing range or if the wounded dog makes it home. I got not problem shooting dogs that are not where they need to be doing things that they shouldn't. I killed 7 out of a pack of 10 a few years ago as they were running deer on my place, and many more over the years. Even have a few bow kills. But I do use judgement when doing this, and understand that it will really piss off the owner, maybe even enough to cause retaliation or even violence against you. A buddy of mine was even arrested for doing this same thing, and it cost him a lot of money in legal fees. So beware, be discreet, and cover your tracks. Discreet is hard when a high powered rifle is discharged, and even more so when a dog howls bloody murder when hit. Believe me, been there, done that! So don't let your anger get you in a bad situation. And if you do decide to shoot them, please practice if you are not a hunter or marksman, of get someone to help. You may also consider other options that would be more discrete, like trapping them. I know a few other lethal options, but I had better not discuss them here on a public forum! People who let their dogs run free to kill game or livestock are despicable, but unfortunately pretty common. Think this through before you act!
 

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